Very helpful, thanks. I hadn't seen this before.Originally Posted by daveryanwyoming .
Very helpful, thanks. I hadn't seen this before.Originally Posted by daveryanwyoming .
Well same ol same ol. These guys have time.Originally Posted by Felt_Rider .
I have no earthly idea why either of them make the claim.
For some coaches, there's a Ban on weight lifting. I think the message they vehicle is important for the ordinary Joe who's time to train is limited. Those who coach professional athletes (cyclists, triathletes, whatever) know what designing full time training schedule represent (5-6hr per day is a lot of hours, 11 months per year is a lot of months). That explains in part this discrepancy.I`m not saying that strength training makes a cyclist go faster on a bike, I just think it`s weired that several professianal/elite cyclists and their coaches claim that they lift weights(and it presumably benefits their performance), when fergie claims that it`s completely useless for a cyclist to lift weights as a means to ride a bike faster. Can you explain why it`s trolling to point out the discrepancy between the pro cyclists/their coaches and fergie?
Yup, can be as simple as that. We have a local academy of sport funded by High Performance Sport NZ and they run compulsory Strength Training Sessions.Originally Posted by POGATA .
Pro cyclists wasting their time/energy in the gym, or confusing their competitors, or promoting a chain of gyms etc:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/gallery-argos-shimano-hit-the-gym-ahead-of-team-presentation/248527
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/gallery-argos-shimano-hit-the-gym-ahead-of-team-presentation/248532
Forgetting which, I have heard one source mention that if someone had 6 weeks or less to train for a race, high intensity intervals would be the way to go.Originally Posted by fergie .
That is my contention after the 5-6 papers that Ronnestad has published claiming a group of strength trained cyclists improved over a group of endurance only trained cyclists. Subjects selected which group they could go in and the endurance only group made no improvement so these studies are very limited. Studies that use interval training over just basic endurance training holding workload constant deliver far greater gains in performance than the weight training studies by Ronnestad. Other studies using elite or trained cyclists see no benefit. Same deal it would seem with Beta Alanine or Beetroot Juice. Test with untrained subjects and you see results but with trained or elite these differences diminish.
I think the only thing he confused was his 'squatting' weight with his 'curling' weight./img/vbsmilies/smilies/smile.gifOriginally Posted by POGATA .
Pro cyclist wasting his time/energy in the gym, or confusing his competitors, or promoting a chain of gyms etc:
Originally Posted by POGATA .
Pro cyclist wasting his time/energy in the gym, or confusing his competitors, or promoting a chain of gyms etc:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165546590260778&set=a.146726005476170.33604.145388992276538&type=1&permPage=1
Except if recovery time from the weights interfered w/workouts on the bike. We have a former bodybuilder on the forum who still lifts but rides somewhat seriously as well. According to his experience, it does but he chooses to keep lifting anyway because he enjoys it. If one where looking to optimize performance on the bike with race results in mind it might not be an ideal way to spend time, even for shorter, faster event like crits or even the kilo/pursuit... which are still essentially aerobically driven events.Originally Posted by DanFox .
Obv this would have to be combined with training on the bike, and building fitness, but I cant see how lifting weights would have anything but a positive effect?
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