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Ryan Case
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Charles wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:02:52 -0800, Ryan Case
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>zoo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was wondering how people feel about how men are portrayed on
>>>television, particularly commercials (in America, not sure about other
>>>countries.)
>>>
>>>Have you noticed how men are almost always portayed as barely above
>>>retarded? Women are these wonderful, smart, sharp, attractive, thin,
>>>healthy people, and men are usually dumb, obnoxious, overweight,
>>>pathetic, etc... barely possessing the intelligence of a baboon.
>>>
>>>All gender jokes aside, we all know this isn't true. This is not what I
>>>see in real life. So why are men portrayed this way? Is it "payback"
>>>for our history of inequality? Is there a "war" against men and boys?
>>>
>>>Men are probably responsible for the making of many of these
>>>commercials, and paint their own gender in an unflattering light. Why?
>>>Is it guilt?
>>>
>>>I'm wondering how other people feel about it... and if they even notice
>>>it as I do..
>>>
>>
>>
>>I have said something to the effect of this for a couple of years now. I
>>have to disagree with you though on a minor point. There is an income
>>level where this changes. As well as an age level. You don't see Mecedes
>>commercials where the men are idiots. Instead you see successful 50
>>somethings with great arm trophies. (When the comm. is geared at men).
>>
>>What you do see are the men between 20 and 49 being represented as
>>idiots. I think that the reason for this is prolly two fold. One, it
>>allows the women to feel superior to the men. And two it allows the men
>>in this age range to feel like they are better then the folks on the
>>shows/commercials. That's really only one reason with two targets, huh?
>>
>>I don't think tht this is an entirely encompassing phenom, but I do see
>>it a lot. There are shows out there that depict men and women as equals,
>>etc. But a lot of what seems to be popular sit com stuff definately
>>seems to be making the men the patsies. I guess that is why I don't
>>watch much of it.
>
>
> When did you last see a cop movie when the top cop wasn't a woman or a
> black guy? And how many big tough men get the **** knocked out of them
> by small, slim, attractive very hot women?
>
> There is definitely a movement toward social engineering in the
> entertainment industry, which of course is riddled with PC and
> homosexuality.
No argument here. I was saying last weekend that if one uses there
casting practices as a ruler then the TLC HGTV conglomeration must want
us to believe that about half the US is gay.
>
> How much of it influences what happens in real life I wonder.
I think that they deaden the public's nerves to certain things. Each
generation has been shown more things on television and each generation
seems more tolerant of certain things.
One of the reasons that I quit watching the CSI shows was that they
continued to escalate the amount of children victims in the crimes. I
think that it was becuase they had shown too many other crimes and
weren't getting a shock factor anymore. I don't care to watch shows that
use harming children in the story line for entertainment.
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:02:52 -0800, Ryan Case
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>zoo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was wondering how people feel about how men are portrayed on
>>>television, particularly commercials (in America, not sure about other
>>>countries.)
>>>
>>>Have you noticed how men are almost always portayed as barely above
>>>retarded? Women are these wonderful, smart, sharp, attractive, thin,
>>>healthy people, and men are usually dumb, obnoxious, overweight,
>>>pathetic, etc... barely possessing the intelligence of a baboon.
>>>
>>>All gender jokes aside, we all know this isn't true. This is not what I
>>>see in real life. So why are men portrayed this way? Is it "payback"
>>>for our history of inequality? Is there a "war" against men and boys?
>>>
>>>Men are probably responsible for the making of many of these
>>>commercials, and paint their own gender in an unflattering light. Why?
>>>Is it guilt?
>>>
>>>I'm wondering how other people feel about it... and if they even notice
>>>it as I do..
>>>
>>
>>
>>I have said something to the effect of this for a couple of years now. I
>>have to disagree with you though on a minor point. There is an income
>>level where this changes. As well as an age level. You don't see Mecedes
>>commercials where the men are idiots. Instead you see successful 50
>>somethings with great arm trophies. (When the comm. is geared at men).
>>
>>What you do see are the men between 20 and 49 being represented as
>>idiots. I think that the reason for this is prolly two fold. One, it
>>allows the women to feel superior to the men. And two it allows the men
>>in this age range to feel like they are better then the folks on the
>>shows/commercials. That's really only one reason with two targets, huh?
>>
>>I don't think tht this is an entirely encompassing phenom, but I do see
>>it a lot. There are shows out there that depict men and women as equals,
>>etc. But a lot of what seems to be popular sit com stuff definately
>>seems to be making the men the patsies. I guess that is why I don't
>>watch much of it.
>
>
> When did you last see a cop movie when the top cop wasn't a woman or a
> black guy? And how many big tough men get the **** knocked out of them
> by small, slim, attractive very hot women?
>
> There is definitely a movement toward social engineering in the
> entertainment industry, which of course is riddled with PC and
> homosexuality.
No argument here. I was saying last weekend that if one uses there
casting practices as a ruler then the TLC HGTV conglomeration must want
us to believe that about half the US is gay.
>
> How much of it influences what happens in real life I wonder.
I think that they deaden the public's nerves to certain things. Each
generation has been shown more things on television and each generation
seems more tolerant of certain things.
One of the reasons that I quit watching the CSI shows was that they
continued to escalate the amount of children victims in the crimes. I
think that it was becuase they had shown too many other crimes and
weren't getting a shock factor anymore. I don't care to watch shows that
use harming children in the story line for entertainment.