Pro Helmet Piece on Look North (Yorks & LIncs) soon

"Learn why this family wants compulsory helmets for
children"

"MSeries" <skankmartin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c3nan7$288o20$1@ID-207671.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Learn why this family wants compulsory helmets for
> children"

There was one in Lancashire a week or so ago.

Kid on BMX does some fairly outrageous stunt, fails,
and dies. Injuries mentioned, but never described as
head injuries.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:45:59 +0000 (UTC), "W K" <hyagillot@tesco.net>
wrote in message <c3nc97$aa0$1@hercules.btinternet.com>:

>Kid on BMX does some fairly outrageous stunt, fails, and
>dies. Injuries mentioned, but never described as head
>injuries.

A piece on the BBC website today, a kid crashed, suffered a
brain injury & died. Some callous bastard then went & told
the parents that if only he'd been wearing a helmet he would
have lived - an assertions which is, as well all know by
now, absolutely not supportable in the light of the
available evidence. Classic shroud-waviong piece featuring
that well known cyclist David Coulthard.

He says that he thinks nothing of wearing a helmet when
racing. Good for him. Does he support the mandatory use of
full-face helmets and Nomex suits by all drivers to combat
motor vehicle fatalities? After all, they outnumber child
cyclist fatalities 100 to 1.

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MSeries wrote:
> "Learn why this family wants compulsory helmets for
> children"

This story was about a local girl who at the age of 9 (four
years ago) went out on her bicycle. She usually wore a
helmet but this particular day she didn't, due to peer
pressure and was in collision with a motorcycle. She
suffered brain damage. Her mother now wants mandatory
helmets for under 16s, she thinks that parents will have an
easier time persuading children to use helmets if it is the
law. The report ended by showing the girl pretty soon after
her accident and the reporter said "of course it is up for
debate as to whether a helmet would have prevented this" -
or something to that effect. It mentioned that lots of local
MPs want compulsory helmets for children too.

In article <2ieu50tosnae0lp2u02osmapufpsdopd31@4ax.com>,
outlook.bugs@microsoft.com says...
> Classic shroud-waviong piece featuring that well known
> cyclist David Coulthard.
>
>
>
Errr.... DC is well known to me as a cyclist, as is
Shumaker, Colin Mcrae , Nicky Grist,

On 22/3/04 8:14 pm, in article MPG.1ac9599438dde99c989ab5@news.demon.co.uk,
"marc" <marccdimspamremovedimspamto reply@jaceeprint.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <2ieu50tosnae0lp2u02osmapufpsdopd31@4ax.com>,
> outlook.bugs@microsoft.com says...
>> Classic shroud-waviong piece featuring that well known
>> cyclist David Coulthard.

> Errr.... DC is well known to me as a cyclist, as is
> Shumaker, Colin Mcrae , Nicky Grist,
And a number of other top drivers are also fairly keen
cyclists. Most can be spotted pootling around the paddock on
bikes during the GP weekends. Alain Prost was well known as
a competitive cuclist. The proportion of top drivers who are
regular cyclists is probably higher than that of the fans.

..d

In message <c3nan7$288o20$1@ID-207671.news.uni-berlin.de>,
MSeries <skankmartin@hotmail.com> writes
>"Learn why this family wants compulsory helmets for
>children"
>
>
Article tonight on Look North Newcastle.

Eric Martlew & cronies (Carlisle being in the Newcastle
coverage area) Sob story of a teenager who had a bike
accident (involving a car? I can't remember now), anyway
suffered brain damage, now has epilepsy & requires constant
supervision.

David Coultard wheeled out in support of the Bill, "we wear
crash helmets on scooters at 25-30mph, therefore must be
good for the kids".

Brief appearance by a local CTC saying about where helmets
have been made compulsory, cycle use has fallen, accidents
not fallen anymore than the fall in cycle use. Very short
compared to the air time given to the kid above.

Email comments invited to look dot north dot comment at bbc
dot co dot uk.

--
Steve

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:05:57 -0000, "Doki" <doki@spamtroNspidar.com>
wrote:

>
>
>MSeries wrote:
>> "Learn why this family wants compulsory helmets for
>> children"
>
>Compulsory helmets are pointless, as the law will be
>unenforcable. There just aren't enough bobbies about to
>spot kids without helmets on.

The Aussies seem to manage ok enforcing it.
--
"We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to
prevent life escaping from us." http://www.bensales.com

Just zis Guy, you know? posted ...

> Classic shroud-waviong piece featuring that well known
> cyclist David Coulthard.

He is, actually. He's even .. alledgedly, I can't find the
link .. competed in MTB races near his home in Monte
Carlo, at the request and with the supervision of his
personal trainer.

--
Paul

(8(|) Homer rocks ..

In news:2ieu50tosnae0lp2u02osmapufpsdopd31@4ax.com,
Just zis Guy, you know? <outlook.bugs@microsoft.com> typed:
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:45:59 +0000 (UTC), "W K"
> <hyagillot@tesco.net> wrote in message
> <c3nc97$aa0$1@hercules.btinternet.com>:
>
>> Kid on BMX does some fairly outrageous stunt, fails, and
>> dies. Injuries mentioned, but never described as head
>> injuries.
>
> A piece on the BBC website today, a kid crashed, suffered
> a brain injury & died. Some callous bastard then went &
> told the parents that if only he'd been wearing a helmet
> he would have lived - an assertions which is, as well all
> know by now, absolutely not supportable in the light of
> the available evidence.

Particularly as it was described as 'a small injury to the
*face*'. It's unpleasant to have to mention it, but I can't
see the logic in that at all.

A

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:17:33 +0000, BenS <urc@bensales.com> () wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:05:57 -0000, "Doki"
><doki@spamtroNspidar.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>MSeries wrote:
>>> "Learn why this family wants compulsory helmets for
>>> children"
>>
>>Compulsory helmets are pointless, as the law will be
>>unenforcable. There just aren't enough bobbies about to
>>spot kids without helmets on.
>
>The Aussies seem to manage ok enforcing it.

Kiwi's are as well. :-( It's a $60 on the spot fine for not
wearing one. That's only about £25, but it's enough to make
me comply, despite how pointless it is for me.

Still, it keeps a bit of the rain off, gives me somewhere
to put a light and mirror and, in an emergency, I can
clobber a clueless cager with it. It sucks big-time in the
heat, though.
--
Matt K Dunedin, NZ

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:45:56 -0000, "Ambrose Nankivell"
<$FirstnameInitialofSurname$@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
<c3nu7s$29lq85$1@ID-93953.news.uni-berlin.de>:

>Particularly as it was described as 'a small injury to the
>*face*'. It's unpleasant to have to mention it, but I can't
>see the logic in that at all.

Entirely unrelated to his promotion of the Facesaver helmet,
obviously.

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <outlook.bugs@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ku71601ts0s35nuvdce88ber7jkhektp7h@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:45:56 -0000, "Ambrose Nankivell"
> <$FirstnameInitialofSurname$@onetel.net.uk> wrote in
> message <c3nu7s$29lq85$1@ID-93953.news.uni-berlin.de>:
>
> >Particularly as it was described as 'a small injury to
> >the *face*'. It's unpleasant to have to mention it, but I
> >can't see the logic in that at
all.
>
> Entirely unrelated to his promotion of the Facesaver
> helmet, obviously.

That really is sick.

I'm just sitting here wondering whether its you+I for
thinking such things, or him.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:09:30 +0000 (UTC), "W K" <hyagillot@tesco.net>
wrote in message <c3qg3a$dbi$1@hercules.btinternet.com>:

>I'm just sitting here wondering whether its you+I for
>thinking such things, or him.

Dunno, but it looks as if the Beeb have been caught
unawares; from discussions with people who have spoken to
the journo concerned the material they were sent apparently
did not mention either Coulthard's interest in the Facesaver
or his connection with BHIT and through them Martlew.

--
Guy
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University