Cheap Recumbants ?

Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i
dont like it!!

thanks

EMG Goodsin must be edykated coz e writed:

> Hi,
>
> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
> like it!!
>
>
> thanks
>
>
I am selling the following.

Challenge Wizard, OSS Recumbent, SWB, Nuclear green, Deore LX front and rear deraileur, 27 speed,
Deor LX front and rear hubs, Deore push pull gear selection, high profile alluminium rims, Magura
hydraulic rim brakes, rear suspension, rack, Cytek C10 computer, excellent condition, bad knee so
switching to trike. Excellent machine for commuting/touring. £895 ovno.

I am in Kent.

Ian

EMG Goodsin wrote:

> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spen=
d
> 1000's and find i dont like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.=20 But some bargains do show
up second hand: my first one was an ex-demo=20 Orbit Crystal which I got for =A3250.

The main recumbent dealers (futurecycles, as Velvet mentions, Bikefix=20 (http://www.bikefix.co.uk)
and London Recumbents=20 (http://www.londonrecumbents.co.uk/) in London, D-Tek in Cambridge (no=20
website at present) and Kinetics (http://kinetics.org.uk/) in Glasgow=20 will all let you play on
demonstrators, which is a Good Thing.=20 Generally, these sessions will tell you within minutes if
you Really=20 Must Have One, but otherwise is probably not long enough to convince you =

if you're not immediately sure (for example, most people assume=20 visibility in heavy traffic will
haunt them, but until you're completely =

happy with the balance, which may take at least a day or two on some=20 models for some people,
you're unlikely to want to venture into heavy=20 traffic to find out...). But it's certainly better
than nothing, and if =

you *are* immediately beamed straight up to Grin Factor 9 then you know=20 you can spend your cash
fairly safely.

The other good thing about the dealers is they have a selection, which=20 IMHO is very important.
Though people use the term "recumbent" to=20 denote a class of bike, it's not really that helpful a
term. Mine, a=20 tourer, has far more in common with something like a Dawes Super Galaxy=20 than it
does with a Baron Lowracer recumbent when it comes to use and=20 application, for example. This is
worth considering when looking at=20 second hand ones too: ask yourself *why* you might want a
'bent, so for=20 example if it's to go screamingly fast then a BikeE or similar would be=20 a total
waste of your money (you could go a lot faster than a BikeE on a =

much cheaper upright racer). As with uprights, there are tourers,=20 racers, urban bikes, folders
and all shades in between, so don't just=20 look for "a recumbent", look for a recumbent that does
specifically what =

your particular job requires of it.

Pete. --=20 Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics,
Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

"Ian" <ihb@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:BB220BBE.790F%ihb@btinternet.com...
> EMG Goodsin must be edykated coz e writed:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
> > like it!!
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> I am selling the following.
>
> Challenge Wizard, OSS Recumbent, SWB, Nuclear green, Deore LX front and
rear
> deraileur, 27 speed, Deor LX front and rear hubs, Deore push pull gear selection, high profile
> alluminium rims, Magura hydraulic rim brakes, rear suspension, rack, Cytek C10 computer, excellent
> condition, bad knee so switching to trike. Excellent machine for commuting/touring. £895 ovno.
>
> I am in Kent.
>
> Ian
>

Could also think about hiring one for a few hours to see how you get on with
it. Try speaking to FutureCycles - www.futurecycles.co.uk I believe - they're on the A22, south of
East Grinstead, in Forest Row - I think that's

and s/hand, and thought I've seen them advertise a quick lesson then take a hired one out for an
afternoon to see how you get on with it.

Having said that, their website isn't reachable for me, and I've not been down there for a few
months, but they didn't particularly look/sound like they might be going out of business when I was.

Velvet

Site works fine and you are right http://www.futurecycles.co.uk/tuitionhire.html
--
David Brown ) http://kitemap.co.uk

Not a recumbent owner but pondering.Tried a few at York Rally from ICE .(
http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/frameset.html )

Sam Salt

"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3EFC5929.3010706@dundee.ac.uk... EMG
Goodsin wrote:

> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
> like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime. But some bargains do show up
second hand: my first one was an ex-demo Orbit Crystal which I got for £250.

The main recumbent dealers (futurecycles, as Velvet mentions, Bikefix (http://www.bikefix.co.uk) and
London Recumbents (http://www.londonrecumbents.co.uk/) in London, D-Tek in Cambridge (no website at
present) and Kinetics (http://kinetics.org.uk/) in Glasgow will all let you play on demonstrators,
which is a Good Thing. Generally, these sessions will tell you within minutes if you Really Must
Have One, but otherwise is probably not long enough to convince you if you're not immediately sure
(for example, most people assume visibility in heavy traffic will haunt them, but until you're
completely happy with the balance, which may take at least a day or two on some models for some
people, you're unlikely to want to venture into heavy traffic to find out...). But it's certainly
better than nothing, and if you *are* immediately beamed straight up to Grin Factor 9 then you know
you can spend your cash fairly safely.

The other good thing about the dealers is they have a selection, which IMHO is very important.
Though people use the term "recumbent" to denote a class of bike, it's not really that helpful a
term. Mine, a tourer, has far more in common with something like a Dawes Super Galaxy than it does
with a Baron Lowracer recumbent when it comes to use and application, for example. This is worth
considering when looking at second hand ones too: ask yourself *why* you might want a 'bent, so for
example if it's to go screamingly fast then a BikeE or similar would be a total waste of your money
(you could go a lot faster than a BikeE on a much cheaper upright racer). As with uprights, there
are tourers, racers, urban bikes, folders and all shades in between, so don't just look for "a
recumbent", look for a recumbent that does specifically what your particular job requires of it.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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Bet you will (like it, that is) though!! BTW don't forget to try both 2 and 3 wheels. If you are
anywhere near the SE you can try mine.

SW

"EMG Goodsin" <emg_goodsin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
> like it!!
>
>
> thanks

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:04:21 GMT, "Velvet" <not@valid.address> wrote:

>
>Having said that, their website isn't reachable for me, and I've not been down there for a
>few months, but they didn't particularly look/sound like they might be going out of business
>when I was.

They were still open today when I collected my Orca (At LAST!!!) :-D Doing quite well, too. Sold an
Anthrotech whilst I was in there.

--
DG

Bah!

Peter Clinch wrote:
> EMG Goodsin wrote:
>
>> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
>> like it!!
>
>
> For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.
<snipped excellent advice/comments>

The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a bit
of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the link in
the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine gives me a good
dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more professionally built
machine (but not before I can afford it).

--
Jim Price

http://www.jimprice.dsl.pipex.com

Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

Aye!.

>The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a bit
>of a mechanical bent.

Or get a kit: <http://www.dutchbikes.nl/uk.htm>

Mark van Gorkom

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 00:49:30 +0100, Disgruntled Goat <disgruntled.goat@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>They were still open today when I collected my Orca

Hurrah! Let us know how you get on. Darth Ian OK?

Guy
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:09:49 +0100, Jim Price <maxxard@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Clinch wrote:
>> EMG Goodsin wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
>>> like it!!
>>
>>
>> For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.
><snipped excellent advice/comments>
>
>The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a bit
>of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the link in
>the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine gives me a good
>dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more professionally built
>machine (but not before I can afford it).

I'm still struggling with mine, struggling to get the 'fixing method' sorted....especially if I want
to do the welding/brazing myself, which I do.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way to go is a decent oxy/act setup - weld/braze/melt/bend
or just heat....it does it all. But storing two bloody great gas bottles in your one-bed flat is
*not* the way to go! Stick welding <although you can get the real small arc welders for 50 notes>
appear to be a no goer <although If I could find carbon arc torch....can't find one
anywhere!!....I'd get an stick
welder>, TIG is obviously way too expensive and MIG, not that easy
either for the type of joints I want to do.....so I'm down to Mapp/air at the moment. It will do
smaller stuff, no problem, but getting two bits if tubes hot enough to get a fillet braze going is
tricky. Next port of call is silver brazing, just as strong as bronze, and it melts at a lower temp
than brass, it might be doable with mapp/air,,,but much more expensive. After that will be resorting
to oxy/mapp, very much the ticket, but the small disposable oxy tanks are wallet burning
apparently..

still, we continue..

sorry, just blabbering here...

Garry

Garry Broad deftly scribbled:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:09:49 +0100, Jim Price <maxxard@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>> EMG Goodsin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
>>>> like it!!
>>>
>>>
>>> For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.
>> <snipped excellent advice/comments>
>>
>> The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a
>> bit of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the
>> link in the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine gives
>> me a good dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more
>> professionally built machine (but not before I can afford it).
>
> I'm still struggling with mine, struggling to get the 'fixing method' sorted....especially if I
> want to do the welding/brazing myself, which I do.
>
> I've come to the conclusion that the only way to go is a decent oxy/act setup -
> weld/braze/melt/bend or just heat....it does it all. But storing two bloody great gas bottles in
> your one-bed flat is *not* the way to go! Stick welding <although you can get the real small arc
> welders for 50 notes> appear to be a no goer <although If I could find carbon arc torch....can't
> find one anywhere!!....I'd get an stick
> welder>, TIG is obviously way too expensive and MIG, not that easy
> either for the type of joints I want to do.....so I'm down to Mapp/air at the moment. It will do
> smaller stuff, no problem, but getting two bits if tubes hot enough to get a fillet braze going is
> tricky. Next port of call is silver brazing, just as strong as bronze, and it melts at a lower
> temp than brass, it might be doable with mapp/air,,,but much more expensive. After that will be
> resorting to oxy/mapp, very much the ticket, but the small disposable oxy tanks are wallet burning
> apparently..

While I understand the motives behind doing much work yourself, why not just take the prepared bits
to a local engineering shop and have them do the welding for you ?

They are more used to welding and should have a far greater knowledge of what will and what won't
work for a given type of weld, joint material and joint structure. If you haven't welded before, and
don't have the 'proper' equipment, I suspect you'd be very lucky to get it right first time. It
takes a long while to get the 'feel' needed to produce welded joints that are cohesive, structurally
sound, and also don't look too much like Pigeon droppings ..

--
Digweed

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:40:04 +0100, "Not me, someone else" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Garry Broad deftly scribbled:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:09:49 +0100, Jim Price <maxxard@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>>> EMG Goodsin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i
>>>>> dont like it!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.
>>> <snipped excellent advice/comments>
>>>
>>> The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a
>>> bit of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the
>>> link in the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine
>>> gives me a good dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more
>>> professionally built machine (but not before I can afford it).
>>
>> I'm still struggling with mine, struggling to get the 'fixing method' sorted....especially if I
>> want to do the welding/brazing myself, which I do.
>>
>> I've come to the conclusion that the only way to go is a decent oxy/act setup -
>> weld/braze/melt/bend or just heat....it does it all. But storing two bloody great gas bottles in
>> your one-bed flat is *not* the way to go! Stick welding <although you can get the real small arc
>> welders for 50 notes> appear to be a no goer <although If I could find carbon arc torch....can't
>> find one anywhere!!....I'd get an stick
>> welder>, TIG is obviously way too expensive and MIG, not that easy
>> either for the type of joints I want to do.....so I'm down to Mapp/air at the moment. It will do
>> smaller stuff, no problem, but getting two bits if tubes hot enough to get a fillet braze going
>> is tricky. Next port of call is silver brazing, just as strong as bronze, and it melts at a lower
>> temp than brass, it might be doable with mapp/air,,,but much more expensive. After that will be
>> resorting to oxy/mapp, very much the ticket, but the small disposable oxy tanks are wallet
>> burning apparently..
>
>While I understand the motives behind doing much work yourself, why not just take the prepared bits
>to a local engineering shop and have them do the welding for you ?
>
>They are more used to welding and should have a far greater knowledge of what will and what won't
>work for a given type of weld, joint material and joint structure. If you haven't welded before,
>and don't have the 'proper' equipment, I suspect you'd be very lucky to get it right first time. It
>takes a long while to get the 'feel' needed to produce welded joints that are cohesive,
>structurally sound, and also don't look too much like Pigeon droppings ..

Sure, common sense. But for me, to do the brazing <not welding btw> myself, is all part of the fun
and process of conjuring something from odd discarded bits and bobs I have lying around here. It's
not *that* difficult to braze properly....you just need the right equipment !!

Might be able to hire some oxy/act for a day or two.....watch your roof!!

Where there's a will there's a way :-)

Garry

I went to see AVD and borrowed a ride on a Windcheetah.

I did spend 000's but boy oh boy was it worth it.

I've had the speedy for 4 years now and do not regret one penny of what I have spent on it.

Comared the the depreciation on a new car as you leave the showroom, all recumbents are cheap.

Best regards

Rod (tri) King on Windcheetah #456

"EMG Goodsin" <emg_goodsin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
> like it!!
>
>
> thanks