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  #1  
Old 10-14.-2003
Just Zis Guy
 
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Default Disc brake problem

One of those little things with the potential to spoil your whole day: I heard a metallic clattering
from the back of the bike this evening, stoped to investigate and found that the sole remaining
screw retaining the rear disc was almost out. There were six in there last time I checked, which was
only a couple of days ago.

Needless to say the hub is shot (Deore - will replace with LX, in the vain hope that the new one is
not made of cheese as the old one evidently is).

I removed the disc and tried hard to remember not to use the left hand on the way back. The bike
shop was closed.

So it's back on the upwrong tomorrow.

Anyone know how to add a service port to Sendmail? Be good to get one thing working today :-/

Guy
===
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Disc brake problem







  #2  
Old 10-14.-2003
Chris Gerhard
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
> Anyone know how to add a service port to Sendmail? Be good to get one thing working today :-/
>

Add these lines to your mc file:

DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MTA') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=28, Name=MTA28')

rebuild the .cf file and you are away.

--
Chris dot Gerhard at btclick dot com.
  #3  
Old 10-14.-2003
Ian
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

Just zis Guy, you know? must be edykated coz e writed:

> One of those little things with the potential to spoil your whole day: I heard a metallic
> clattering from the back of the bike this evening, stoped to investigate and found that the sole
> remaining screw retaining the rear disc was almost out. There were six in there last time I
> checked, which was only a couple of days ago.
>
> Needless to say the hub is shot (Deore - will replace with LX, in the vain hope that the new one
> is not made of cheese as the old one evidently is).
>
> I removed the disc and tried hard to remember not to use the left hand on the way back. The bike
> shop was closed.
>
> So it's back on the upwrong tomorrow.
>
> Anyone know how to add a service port to Sendmail? Be good to get one thing working today :-/
>
> Guy
> ===
> ** WARNING ** This posting may contain traces of irony. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk
Hope make some nice hubs.

--
Ian

http://www.catrike.co.uk
  #4  
Old 10-14.-2003
Simon Brooke
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <guy.chapman@spamcop.net> writes:

> Anyone know how to add a service port to Sendmail? Be good to get one thing working today :-/

OK, what exactly is it you want to do? Do you want to get it to listen on a port other than 25 for
SMTP protocol connections? If you just want to get it to listen _on_ 25 then all you need is
'sendmail -bd', but I'm sure you know this.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; lovely alternative to rice.
  #5  
Old 10-14.-2003
Just Zis Guy
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:06:19 +0000 (UTC), Chris Gerhard <no_spam@not_btclick.com> wrote:

>Add these lines to your mc file: DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MTA') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=28, Name=MTA28')

Far too easy - that's to get Sendmail to listen on 28; I want to forward to another server on the
same machine on (e.g.) port 2525. Allegedly this can be achieved by setting (e.g.) define
(`SMTP8_MAILER_ARGS',`TCP $h 2525') in the .mc file and using (e.g.) mydomain.com smtp8:[127.0.0.1]
in the mailertable but This Does Not Work which is a bummer.

I am thinking about changing the approach, though, as I could easily enough map port 25 on my router
to a non-standard port on my internal server, and I could then use Sendmail just to handle inbound,
which has a certain attraction as the main reason for using Sendmail is the spamass-milter (and
possibly a virus scan). This is definitely Much Easier since changing the daemon port is, as you
say, trivial. Actually I just went away, changed it, tested the non-standard port, changed it back
and tested it again in the interval since you posted the above...

I could also give up and use procmail, but that would be the wimp's way out ;-)

Guy
===
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  #6  
Old 10-15.-2003
James Annan
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> One of those little things with the potential to spoil your whole day: I heard a metallic
> clattering from the back of the bike this evening, stoped to investigate and found that the sole
> remaining screw retaining the rear disc was almost out. There were six in there last time I
> checked, which was only a couple of days ago.
>
> Needless to say the hub is shot (Deore - will replace with LX, in the vain hope that the new one
> is not made of cheese as the old one evidently is).

You'll be wanting locktite, or some of the Shimano designs to stop the bolts unscrewing. Of course
on no account should anyone try to analyse why the bolts came unscrewed, and any similarity between
a threaded bolt holding the rotor in place, and a threaded skewer holding the wheel in place is
entirely coincidental...

James
  #7  
Old 10-15.-2003
Nick Kew
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

In article <02goov8rm0t4o0g6pa38seiv5h6k1mqkl1@4ax.com>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard of
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <guy.chapman@spamcop.net> wrote:

> Far too easy - that's to get Sendmail to listen on 28; I want to

Sendmail is Old Unix, from the days when core memory on a mainframe was measured in kilobytes, and
processor cycles even less. To run them required deep wizardry on the part of the humans in charge.
Sendmail was written for that environment. I used to have just about enough of the arcane knowledge
to tinker with the rulesets, but was pleased to get away from it in about '97.

If you want an easy life, you want a modern MTA.

[1] It wasn't new at the time of my first job - and we had to 'phone the operators to arrange to run
any program that required more than about 2K. Oh, and that was at one of the biggest software
houses in the country.

> forward to another server on the same machine on (e.g.) port 2525. Allegedly this can be achieved
> by setting (e.g.) define (`SMTP8_MAILER_ARGS',`TCP $h 2525') in the .mc file and using (e.g.)
> mydomain.com smtp8:[127.0.0.1] in the mailertable but This Does Not Work which is a bummer.
>
> I am thinking about changing the approach, though, as I could easily enough map port 25 on my
> router to a non-standard port on my internal server, and I could then use Sendmail just to handle
> inbound, which has a certain attraction as the main reason for using Sendmail is the
> spamass-milter (and possibly a virus scan). This is definitely Much Easier since changing the
> daemon port is, as you say, trivial. Actually I just went away, changed it, tested the
> non-standard port, changed it back and tested it again in the interval since you posted the
> above...
>
> I could also give up and use procmail, but that would be the wimp's way out ;-)
>
> Guy
> ===
> ** WARNING ** This posting may contain traces of irony. http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk

--
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Germany 0.8 (The Economist, July 2002)
  #8  
Old 10-16.-2003
Dave Larrington
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

This be most odd, especially give the use of Loctite. The last time I was obliged to remove the rear
(Hope) disc from my Speedmachine, it required much swearing and, ultimately, Mole grips to get the
little bu*ggers out. This was, of course, at least partly due to the bolts having been
manufacturered:

o with Allen head, and o from cheese

The Magura discs in the Baron have Torx bolts, but make up for this minor inconvenience by being
crap. When I am rich and famous, etc.

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
===========================================================
Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
===========================================================
  #9  
Old 10-16.-2003
Tony Raven
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
> Mine, being Magura, are also Torx, which is not an issue as I have a Several of Torx bits
> and keys.

The problem is needing to carry the bits with you in the toolkit - either that or hope you won't
need them which is the ultimate come on to Sod's Law

> I just can't work out why the bleeders came loose - you can still see the residue of Loctite on
> the one screw which I managed to salvage.

Did you clean and degrease the screws before you fitted them? Being on the disk it may also be the
heat. The standard way to release a threadlocked bolt, particularly the red and green threadlocks,
is to heat them up. If your brake disk got very hot at some time it could have rendered the loctite
ineffective. I've certainly seen disks get to those sorts of temperatures.

>
> I am pinning the blame on the Deore hub which is (a) crap and (b) utter crap. The freehub bearings
> are also shot (under 4,000 miles) so an LX or better hub is on the way.

As someone else mentioned, Hope hubs are worth the extra. Haven't had to touch mine in four
years of use.

Tony

--
"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain
  #10  
Old 10-16.-2003
Dave Larrington
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> Wanders off to price up a Hope hub... presumably they work with Shimano cassettes?

They do indeed. I've got Hope XC's on the Speedmachine and very nice they are too.

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
===========================================================
Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
===========================================================
  #11  
Old 10-16.-2003
Simon Brooke
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <guy.chapman@spamcop.net> writes:

> I could also give up and use procmail, but that would be the wimp's way out ;-)

Well it may be, but it makes life very easy.

simon@beesianum:~$ more /etc/procmailrc
:fw
| su - $LOGNAME -c "/usr/bin/spamc -f -d $SPAMDHOST -p 783 -u $LOGNAME"

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; I'll have a proper rant later, when I get the time.
  #12  
Old 10-16.-2003
Just Zis Guy
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

"James Annan" <still_the_same_me@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3F8C8F4F.1040107@hotmail.com...

> You'll be wanting locktite, or some of the Shimano designs to stop the bolts unscrewing. Of course
> on no account should anyone try to analyse why the bolts came unscrewed, and any similarity
> between a threaded bolt holding the rotor in place, and a threaded skewer holding the wheel in
> place is entirely coincidental...

The screws were in with Loctite. I use Loctite on most of the bolts & screws on the back end of my
bike, the suspension allows more vibration than on a rigid bike and if you don't Loctite things
they fall off.

I'm not going to be drawn on the bolts & skewers thing....

Just as well the back brake is primarily decorative, really ;-)

--
Guy
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http://www.chapmancentral.com
  #13  
Old 10-16.-2003
Just Zis Guy
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

"Dave Larrington" <legs_larry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bmj822$mpjbe$2@ID-120318.news.uni-berlin.de...

> The Magura discs in the Baron have Torx bolts, but make up for this minor inconvenience by being
> crap. When I am rich and famous, etc.

Mine, being Magura, are also Torx, which is not an issue as I have a Several of Torx bits and keys.
I just can't work out why the bleeders came loose - you can still see the residue of Loctite on the
one screw which I managed to salvage.

I am pinning the blame on the Deore hub which is (a) crap and (b) utter crap. The freehub bearings
are also shot (under 4,000 miles) so an LX or better hub is on the way.

--
Guy
===

WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.com
  #14  
Old 10-16.-2003
Alan Braggins
 
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Default Re: Disc brake problem

In article <ej8imb.f81.ln@jarl.webthing.com>, Nick Kew wrote:
>In article <02goov8rm0t4o0g6pa38seiv5h6k1mqkl1@4ax.com>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard of
>"Just zis Guy, you know?" <guy.chapman@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> Far too easy - that's to get Sendmail to listen on 28; I want to
>
>Sendmail is Old Unix, from the days when core memory on a mainframe was measured in kilobytes, and
>processor cycles even less. To run them required deep wizardry on the part of the humans in charge.
>Sendmail was written for that environment. I used to have just about enough of the arcane knowledge
>to tinker with the rulesets, but was pleased to get away from it in about '97.
>
>If you want an easy life, you want a modern MTA.

One that won't let you play Towers of Hanoi with the config file?
http://pfaff.newton.cam.ac.uk/jhnc/hanoi-cf.html
 

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