At last - some clarity about helmet use

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../17/do1701.xml

It's a confused argument...

On Jun 27, 1:40*pm, Tom Crispin
<kije.rem...@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...ion/2008/06/17....
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> It's a confused argument...

Get on with the job you are paid by the taxpayer to do. A part-time
Mayor is not what I voted for.
Posted by jeffrey on June 17, 2008 9:58 PM

Ha!!

On 27 Jun, 13:49, spindrift <newty...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 1:40*pm, Tom Crispin
>
> <kije.rem...@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...ion/2008/06/17....
>
> > It's a confused argument...
>
> Get on with the job you are paid by the taxpayer to do. A part-time
> Mayor is not what I voted for.
> Posted by jeffrey on June 17, 2008 9:58 PM
>
> Ha!!


I see they soon sussed you out on Pistonheads, Cheryl

On Jun 27, 2:40*pm, Sir Jeremy <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote:
> On 27 Jun, 13:49, spindrift <newty...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 27, 1:40*pm, Tom Crispin
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> > <kije.rem...@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...ion/2008/06/17...
>
> > > It's a confused argument...
>
> > Get on with the job you are paid by the taxpayer to do. A part-time
> > Mayor is not what I voted for.
> > Posted by jeffrey on June 17, 2008 9:58 PM
>
> > Ha!!
>
> I see they soon sussed you out on Pistonheads, Cheryl

They don't miss much do they? All you have to do is say who you are
and BANG, you're rumbled!

Look at the broken rib post, genius.

That's your usual haunt, is it? Where people boast about sideswiping
cyclists and laugh at pictures of a young lad dying after being hit by
a drunk driver?

On 27 Jun, 15:15, spindrift <newty...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2:40*pm, Sir Jeremy <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote:
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> > On 27 Jun, 13:49, spindrift <newty...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 27, 1:40*pm, Tom Crispin
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> > > <kije.rem...@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...ion/2008/06/17...
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> > > > It's a confused argument...
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> > > Get on with the job you are paid by the taxpayer to do. A part-time
> > > Mayor is not what I voted for.
> > > Posted by jeffrey on June 17, 2008 9:58 PM
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> > > Ha!!
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> > I see they soon sussed you out on Pistonheads, Cheryl
>
> They don't miss much do they? All you have to do is say who you are
> and BANG, you're rumbled!
>
> Look at the broken rib post, genius.
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> That's your usual haunt, is it? Where people boast about sideswiping
> cyclists and laugh at pictures of a young lad dying after being hit by
> a drunk driver?- Hide quoted text -
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Lies.

You really can't take it when people disagree with you, can you?

Tom Crispin wrote:

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../17/do1701.xml
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> It's a confused argument...

Ambivalence. A bit more of it wouldn't go amiss on some other issues too.
Tie only point that I'd like to take issue with the old toff on is
running into a tourist and saying.. "I felt the real lesson was about
teaching tourists to look the right way."
I feel the real lesson is that if you're going to ride in london you
should know that tourists won't always look the right way.
Of course you can't always allow for it.
More ambivalence.
Roger Thorpe

On 27 Jun, 15:15, spindrift <newty...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2:40*pm, Sir Jeremy <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote:
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> > On 27 Jun, 13:49, spindrift <newty...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Ha!!
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> > I see they soon sussed you out on Pistonheads, Cheryl
>
> They don't miss much do they? All you have to do is say who you are
> and BANG, you're rumbled!
>
> Look at the broken rib post, genius.
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Wildy had you sussed long before you posted that

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:10:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
<pete.aron@virgin.net> said in
<41a9eced-dd09-4e61-b5f0-aedc897072db@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:

>You really can't take it when people disagree with you, can you?

Oh the irony.

What bike do you ride, again?

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

On 27 Jun, 16:36, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:10:57 -0700 (PDT), Sir Jeremy
> <pete.a...@virgin.net> said in
> <41a9eced-dd09-4e61-b5f0-aedc89707...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >You really can't take it when people disagree with you, can you?
>
> Oh the irony.
>
> What bike do you ride, again?
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. *Contents liable to settle after posting.http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


You bike snobs will probably laugh at it , its a Falcon Grafitti. Its
a bit heavy and low geared so I'm thinking about getting something
lighter as well, but I can't decide what.

"Sir Jeremy" <pete.aron@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:3a9b2283-5b8a-4233-adf3-193d410fc64e@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>You bike snobs will probably laugh at it , its a Falcon Grafitti. Its
>a bit heavy and low geared so I'm thinking about getting something
>lighter as well, but I can't decide what.

Well, what do you do with it at the moment, and what do you want to do?
Distance, type of riding?

The only falcon graffiti (note spelling) I've found is their BMX 'freestyle'
model. So, are you thinking about another BMX for that sort of thing, or
something to carry you a bit more distance? Are you looking for something to
go fast on, or maybe looking to get into MTBing? Or just more mundane
transport cycling, eg to school and back.

(I've changed the subject title to reflect the question, since we're
actually talking about cycling for a change)

clive

Sir Jeremy said the following on 28/06/2008 10:36:

> You bike snobs will probably laugh at it , its a Falcon Grafitti.

Well, mountain bikes don't seem to feature heavily here (hence no
kitchen photos of my shiny new MTB - yet!!!), but I think this may be
the first time a BMX has popped up.

Still, a bike is a bike, and so long as it isn't Sterling House it won't
get laughed at.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

On 28 Jun, 11:36, "Clive George" <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> "Sir Jeremy" <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3a9b2283-5b8a-4233-adf3-193d410fc64e@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >You bike snobs will probably laugh at it , its a Falcon Grafitti. Its
> >a bit heavy and low geared so I'm thinking about getting something
> >lighter as well, but I can't decide what.
>
> Well, what do you do with it at the moment, and what do you want to do?
> Distance, type of riding?
>
> The only falcon graffiti (note spelling) I've found is their BMX 'freestyle'
> model. So, are you thinking about another BMX for that sort of thing, or
> something to carry you a bit more distance? Are you looking for something to
> go fast on, or maybe looking to get into MTBing? Or just more mundane
> transport cycling, eg to school and back.
>
> (I've changed the subject title to reflect the question, since we're
> actually talking about cycling for a change)
>
> clive

Its about 10 years old now. My wife and I bought bikes at the same
time for exercise and fun, but she won't ride hers on the public road
so we're stuck with cycle tracks and paths. I just get a bit
frustrated as I think I'd get more of a buzz on something quicker

"Sir Jeremy" <pete.aron@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:bf5519a9-2c0f-443c-9625-328613f4e79c@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 28 Jun, 11:36, "Clive George" <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Sir Jeremy" <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3a9b2283-5b8a-4233-adf3-193d410fc64e@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >You bike snobs will probably laugh at it , its a Falcon Grafitti. Its
>> >a bit heavy and low geared so I'm thinking about getting something
>> >lighter as well, but I can't decide what.
>>
>> Well, what do you do with it at the moment, and what do you want to do?
>> Distance, type of riding?
>>
>> The only falcon graffiti (note spelling) I've found is their BMX
>> 'freestyle'
>> model. So, are you thinking about another BMX for that sort of thing, or
>> something to carry you a bit more distance? Are you looking for something
>> to
>> go fast on, or maybe looking to get into MTBing? Or just more mundane
>> transport cycling, eg to school and back.
>>
>> (I've changed the subject title to reflect the question, since we're
>> actually talking about cycling for a change)
>
> Its about 10 years old now. My wife and I bought bikes at the same
> time for exercise and fun, but she won't ride hers on the public road
> so we're stuck with cycle tracks and paths. I just get a bit
> frustrated as I think I'd get more of a buzz on something quicker

Well, yes, BMX freestyle bikes aren't really intended to take you places in
that manner - they're for playing around on. Or have you got something
different?

Are you intending to do riding with your wife or on your own? If you get a
faster bike will you be looking to get one for her too?

Pretty much anything will be faster than a bike intended for doing tricks.
So you need to consider what you actually want the bike to do - are we
talking a couple of miles, 30 or 100? Hilly or flat? Couple of times a year,
weekly or daily use?

Eg although I'd suggest an audax bike is a great all-purpose bike for a keen
cyclist, there's not much point for a little bit of pottering.

clive

On 28 Jun, 13:01, "Clive George" <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> "Sir Jeremy" <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> news:bf5519a9-2c0f-443c-9625-328613f4e79c@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
>
> > On 28 Jun, 11:36, "Clive George" <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> "Sir Jeremy" <pete.a...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> >>news:3a9b2283-5b8a-4233-adf3-193d410fc64e@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >You bike snobs will probably laugh at it , its a Falcon Grafitti. Its
> >> >a bit heavy and low geared so I'm thinking about getting something
> >> >lighter as well, but I can't decide what.
>
> >> Well, what do you do with it at the moment, and what do you want to do?
> >> Distance, type of riding?
>
> >> The only falcon graffiti (note spelling) I've found is their BMX
> >> 'freestyle'
> >> model. So, are you thinking about another BMX for that sort of thing, or
> >> something to carry you a bit more distance? Are you looking for something
> >> to
> >> go fast on, or maybe looking to get into MTBing? Or just more mundane
> >> transport cycling, eg to school and back.
>
> >> (I've changed the subject title to reflect the question, since we're
> >> actually talking about cycling for a change)
>
> > Its about 10 years old now. My wife and I bought bikes at the same
> > time for exercise and fun, but she won't ride hers on the public road
> > so we're stuck with cycle tracks and paths. I just get a bit
> > frustrated as I think I'd get more of a buzz on something quicker
>
> Well, yes, BMX freestyle bikes aren't really intended to take you places in
> that manner - they're for playing around on. Or have you got something
> different?
>
> Are you intending to do riding with your wife or on your own? If you get a
> faster bike will you be looking to get one for her too?
>
> Pretty much anything will be faster than a bike intended for doing tricks.
> So you need to consider what you actually want the bike to do - are we
> talking a couple of miles, 30 or 100? Hilly or flat? Couple of times a year,
> weekly or daily use?
>
> Eg although I'd suggest an audax bike is a great all-purpose bike for a keen
> cyclist, there's not much point for a little bit of pottering.
>
> clive- Hide quoted text -
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I take your point about the BMX, but my bike is nowhere near as
extreme as the current models. I think it'd be for solo runs as some
of the frustration is not enjoying dawdling.