Best Mobile Network for the Lake district - Page 2

"Mark Manning" <mrm1@msm.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> I have a Vodafone phone, and my general rule (for the
Western fells)
> is that I can get a signal if I can get line of sight to
Sellafield. Vodafone
> may be "the best so far", but coverage is very patchy.
Basically, I never
> depend on having a signal.
>
> Mark
> --
> Mark Manning
mrm1@msm.cam.ac.uk

Also, this thread appeared a while ago. Someone wrote that Vodafone and 02 networks operate within
so many kms of a transmitter ( I can't just remember the exact figure, but maybe 32?), hills not
withstanding, whereas Orange, T Mobile etc transmitters are far less powerful.

Robert

"Paul Rooney" <paulrooney@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:06:45 +0000, Martin Richardson <martin@thequiff.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article
<TMRpb.5921$hx5.44896628@news-text.cableinet.net>, Chris S
> ><this_is_a_fake@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
> >>Could you give us your views on the best mobile network
for the Lakes.
> >>I have T Mobile and the connection is rubbish. I have done some looking and Vodaphone and
> >>Orange seems
to be the best so
> >>far.
> >>
> >>I would like your views on which is best and where you
use them.
> >>
> >The best one is the one with no coverage at all.
>
> That's all very well for the telepathic, but those of us
who suddenly
> feel an urge for beef rather than lamb, at 2 o'clock on a
Sunday
> afternoon on a rocky ridge, require a more reliable method
of
> communicating with the wife. As to being annoyed by the ring, which Paul mentions,
that's not an
> issue - they all come with an Off button.
>
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2003):
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>
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AND, like tomorrow, by virtue of call diversion, I can be up on the hills, rather than being tied
down (! not) in the office. A mobile phone and appropriate technology brings freedom. Recently I
bought 400mt peanuts on the way up Snowdon and sold em on the way down. I'm not bragging - just
making a point.

Boo wrote:

> But what if your GPS led you over a cliff

What if your compass led you over a cliff? Do you usually trust inanimate objects with your life?

> and then the batteries ran out ? You'd be depending upon it then !

I doubt that the base of a cliff is the best place to get a signal.

Paul
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>That's all very well for the telepathic, but those of us who suddenly feel an urge for beef rather
>than lamb, at 2 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon on a rocky ridge, require a more reliable method of
>communicating with the wife.

I just stop and talk to her..

Richard Webb

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:55:17 +0000, Gordon wrote:

>>That's all very well for the telepathic, but those of us who suddenly feel an urge for beef rather
>>than lamb, at 2 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon on a rocky ridge, require a more reliable method of
>>communicating with the wife.
>
>BZZZT! If you're thinking about the dinner menu, you're not gripped enough.

LOL :-)
--
Phil Cook

Robert Hill wrote:

> AND, like tomorrow, by virtue of call diversion, I can be up on the hills, rather than being tied
> down (! not) in the office. A mobile phone and appropriate technology brings freedom. Recently I
> bought 400mt peanuts on the way up Snowdon and sold em on the way down. I'm not bragging - just
> making a point.

Fair enough. So you're one of those entrepenuer types are you? The kind of person that gets a kick
out of making money? Nothing wrong with that, it's just not my mentality. I wouldn't want those kind
of distractions when out walking. When I go out I like to truly get away from civilisation.

Paul
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<{d-sep03}@dscs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <3fa96e7e$0$12668$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk>, Robert Hill <zen13484@zen.co.uk> writes
>>
>>"Mark Manning" <mrm1@msm.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message news:boafg0$5k5$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>> I have a Vodafone phone, and my general rule (for the
>>Western fells)
>>> is that I can get a signal if I can get line of sight to
>>Sellafield. Vodafone
>>> may be "the best so far", but coverage is very patchy.
>>Basically, I never
>>> depend on having a signal.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> --
>>> Mark Manning
>>mrm1@msm.cam.ac.uk
>>
>>Also, this thread appeared a while ago. Someone wrote that Vodafone and 02 networks operate within
>>so many kms of a transmitter ( I can't just remember the exact figure, but maybe 32?), hills not
>>withstanding, whereas Orange, T Mobile etc transmitters are far less powerful.
>>

The maximum cells size is 36km, however if you pack cells closer together you can of course run
more transmitters and support more handsets in a given space. All of the base stations in a cell
(there can be more than one base transmittor) run sufficent power to talk way beyond 36km, the
problem is that timing constraints don't permit a base to handset distance beyond this due to
propogation delays.

>>Robert
>>
>>
>Voda & O2 operate at 900MHz and Orange & T Mobile are at 1800MHz. The higher you go the more the
>signal is line of sight (i.e. more susceptible to blockages) so the latter are more prone to
>interruptions from terrain.

I think you will find that Vodaphone and cellnet also have 1.8Ghz system. The old 900Mhz system was
the old analogue phones, GSM operates on 1.8Ghz. Any network can use it provided that they have the
required licences.

>
>Another thing to bear in mind is that in marginal conditions your head can get in the way of a poor
>signal. Turning on the spot can sometime improve things - using a hands free kit and holding the
>handset aloft may prove better sometimes.

--
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looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:55:17 +0000, Gordon <Gordon@g3snx.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>BZZZT! If you're thinking about the dinner menu, you're not gripped enough.

On the contrary! My mind is off wandering free, doing its own thing. That's what it's all about.

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"Paul Saunders" <pvs1@wildwales.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
>I doubt that the base of a cliff is the best place to get a signal.
>

'Tis on Globalstar: if you can see the sky, you can make a call !

--

Mike @ www.lefkada-homes.com

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:51:36 GMT, highcruxroad@blueyonder.co.uk (RJ
Webb) wrote:

>
>>That's all very well for the telepathic, but those of us who suddenly feel an urge for beef rather
>>than lamb, at 2 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon on a rocky ridge, require a more reliable method of
>>communicating with the wife.
>
>I just stop and talk to her..
>
>Richard Webb

So do I!

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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:51:36 GMT, RJ Webb wrote:

>
>>That's all very well for the telepathic, but those of us who suddenly feel an urge for beef rather
>>than lamb, at 2 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon on a rocky ridge, require a more reliable method of
>>communicating with the wife.
>
>I just stop and talk to her..

If you have to stop you are walking too fast. :-)
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Paul Saunders wrote:
> Boo wrote:
>
>
>>But what if your GPS led you over a cliff
>
>
> What if your compass led you over a cliff? Do you usually trust inanimate objects with your life?
>
That was supposed to be irony ;-)

--
Boo

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:30:28 +0000, Martin Richardson
<martin@thequiff.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <v4jhqvkr31246bhi7fet8atjf7f43f6njk@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney <paulrooney@aol.com> writes
>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:06:45 +0000, Martin Richardson <martin@thequiff.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <TMRpb.5921$hx5.44896628@news-text.cableinet.net>, Chris S
>>><this_is_a_fake@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>>>Could you give us your views on the best mobile network for the Lakes. I have T Mobile and the
>>>>connection is rubbish. I have done some looking and Vodaphone and Orange seems to be the best
>>>>so far.
>>>>
>>>>I would like your views on which is best and where you use them.
>>>>
>>>The best one is the one with no coverage at all.
>>
>>That's all very well for the telepathic, but those of us who suddenly feel an urge for beef rather
>>than lamb, at 2 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon on a rocky ridge, require a more reliable method of
>>communicating with the wife. As to being annoyed by the ring, which Paul mentions, that's not an
>>issue - they all come with an Off button.
>>
>So I have to put up with ugly masts and all the other paraphernalia on numerous hilltops because of
>your fickle dietary needs?

Ha! I vote that masts be disguised as cairns.

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"Robert Hill" <zen13484@zen.co.uk> writes:

>AND, like tomorrow, by virtue of call diversion, I can be up on the hills, rather than being tied
>down (! not) in the office. A mobile phone and appropriate technology brings freedom. Recently I
>bought 400mt peanuts on the way up Snowdon and sold em on the way down. I'm not bragging - just
>making a point.

You must have very strong legs!

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On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:55:38 -0000, "Paul Saunders"
<pvs1@wildwales.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> When I go out I like to truly get away from civilisation.

But not away from satellites (-:

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