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Peter himself denied Jesus THREE TIMES. Saul was a known Christian persecuter before being struck on the road to Damascus and changing to Paul.

The First George grew the plant on his plantation. And chopped down a cherry tree in his youth. But still went on to be a great leader.

It wasn't the fact that Clinton did it in the Whithouse but that he lied about it..."I did NOT have sexual realtions with that woman, Ms. Lewinski". And that lie was used to cover his tracks in the Paula Jones trial so it was perjury.

Little details.
What is this artifice you are using oh yes-relativism. Nice try weisse but it won't wash here. Also, cherry tree a myth & hemp for clothing & rope is a wee bit' different from cannabis sativa. We're a little brighter than you may think. Incidentally, King George probably only smoked weed (Barb's) when he couldn't get any nose candy (coke)
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...Now telling a lie to the american people about not having sex with ms. lewinsky...that is entirely different....
Reminds me of one of my favorite slogans-"Nobody died when Clinton lied"
Thanks for reminding me of that Zap.
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I have to give Clinton credit. He was the best commander in chief we've ever had. He used the military the right way,,,,'only when absolutely necessary'.

Speaking for myself as an American citizen, Clinton did more to bring about peace and democracy in the 'right' way than Bush will ever accomplish through military conquest and nation-building. Obviously Bush slept through history class, because he has placed the United States in the same position as Germany was in 1936-38.
Maybe in the latter 1/2 of the 20th cen. but, other than that, Bravo- here, here. Excellent post Olasnah
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Reminds me of one of my favorite slogans-"Nobody died when Clinton lied"
Thanks for reminding me of that Zap.
Really? There were a few "mysterious" deaths related to Clinton....funny how people died when he was in office...Uh Strange plane crash, death by suicide?
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Right, so Clinton, Gore, Edwards, Kerry and Bush said there were WMDs...but Clinton ALSO lied about Lewinsky. Yeah, that makes him the worst of the bunch, 2 lies as opposed to everyone else's 1! Tell it to all the innocent people Bush killed for no reason, idiot.
Well if it isn't our resident mathematical genius...or perhaps not...mathematically 2 lies are greater ">" than 1 lie...c'mon you should know that sparky.. and you call me an idiot... I am very disappointed in you. Perhaps you should select another hobby? Oh, and please identify one person that Bush killed for any reason. Seems like Rather would have been all over that story.

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Do you have a daughter? I hope you don't want her to give you any grandkids, some guy will have to take advantage of her. Oooooer, that's dirty!
Hey goober when you grow up, you will be able to determine the difference from dating, casual sex and relationships from a older powerful figure "the president" welding that power and taking advantage of a young intern. Just a little different than ones daughter meeting a dude and getting it on...I have faith in you. I know that in the next few years you will mature and at some point you will be able to figure it out...


So that you understand. If I had a daughter and she had sex with her partner big deal. If some old bastard whom she works for is 30 years her senior uses her as a whore then yes...I'll be a little pissed. So, like I said, one day when/if (assuming that you are straight) you become a father, you'll understand...
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Upon reflection I don't think he smoked much ganja. After one does coke, ganja just doesn't cut it. Get it? Cut it. ha ha ha Besides Laura probably didn't like to have him dipping into her supply. Conservatives are so santimonious & change the subject when their hand is caught in the proverbial cookie jar. Much like Bill Bennet & gambling & Bill O'Reily & sexual predation (using his power over a subordinate which, didn't work anyway.) Incidentally, did he settle out of court? I suspect he did. By contrast, Clinton's sex was consensual. Lying about an affair, who woulda' thought. Give me a break-who wouldn't lie about having an affair Then the republicans spent 100's of millions of TAXPAYER'S dollar's to PROVE that he had sexual relations. That was a releif for me, money well spent-NOT They rail about lowering taxes & cutting programs & then they turn @ and spend 100's of millions of dollar's to prove the obvious. What would we do w/o the Republican party. They are a bunch of swell guy's & gal's Talk about "bending" the truth-see below.
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Really? There were a few "mysterious" deaths related to Clinton....funny how people died when he was in office...Uh Strange plane crash, death by suicide?
Ahh yes, the idea put forward by the Republicans that Clinton had his best friend from childhood and closest advisor, Vince Foster, killed. This was about as far 'out there' as the accusations got with Clinton, but considering the extraordinary efforts and money the Republicans put into trying to oust Clinton from office and tarnish any chance Gore would have for election, it was not suprising.
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Well if it isn't our resident mathematical genius...or perhaps not...mathematically 2 lies are greater ">" than 1 lie...c'mon you should know that sparky.. and you call me an idiot... I am very disappointed in you. Perhaps you should select another hobby?
So, we agree that 2 > 1. I'm so pleased. The bit I didn't get (do enlighten me) is how this makes Bush a better president than Clinton.

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Oh, and please identify one person that Bush killed for any reason. Seems like Rather would have been all over that story.
You know what, I can't identify a single one of them. Those 1,000 US troops and 4,000 Afghan civilians and 100,000 Iraqi civilians were probably just made up by the news, it never really happened. And the 3,000 in the planes and towers on 9/11 who would probably have been alive is Bush had bothered to go to work more often...but I can't name any of them, so lets not count them either.

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Hey goober when you grow up, you will be able to determine the difference from dating, casual sex and relationships from a older powerful figure "the president" welding that power and taking advantage of a young intern. Just a little different than ones daughter meeting a dude and getting it on...I have faith in you. I know that in the next few years you will mature and at some point you will be able to figure it out...


So that you understand. If I had a daughter and she had sex with her partner big deal. If some old bastard whom she works for is 30 years her senior uses her as a whore then yes...I'll be a little pissed. So, like I said, one day when/if (assuming that you are straight) you become a father, you'll understand...
Ah, I see I'm arguing with someone who had detailed knowledge of the exact nature of Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky - why didn't you say so earlier? Had I known you had proof he was taking advantage of her, I'd have kept my gob shut. Or....is it just that, like many who voted for Bush, you're a sexually repressed religious zealot who is more bothered by Clinton's naughty antics than Bush's mass slaughter?
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There are millions of women out there today that would jump at the chance to be involved with Clinton. He's powerful, rich, and important. A girl like Lewinsky is just one of those millions. Ever had a girlfriend who only hangs around you because you happened to be the winner of a recent race? Or because she knows you have money? Anyway, Clinton didn't take advantage of anything. It's not his fault that he was young enough to still be sexually active. I hope I am at that age. Doesn't make him any less capable of leading,,,in fact, it shows that he is still alive and kicking and full of energy. Just what I want in a president.
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There are millions of women out there today that would jump at the chance to be involved with Clinton. He's powerful, rich, and important. A girl like Lewinsky is just one of those millions. Ever had a girlfriend who only hangs around you because you happened to be the winner of a recent race? Or because she knows you have money? Anyway, Clinton didn't take advantage of anything. It's not his fault that he was young enough to still be sexually active. I hope I am at that age. Doesn't make him any less capable of leading,,,in fact, it shows that he is still alive and kicking and full of energy. Just what I want in a president.

Lewinsky knew exactly what she was doing - and for the rump Republican element here, which is trying to create the perception that she was manipulated, is not only corny but it is stupid.

She willingly played along and wanted a bit of fun.
Loads of women would cave in, if the, allegedly, most powerful man in the world hit on them.

(I say allegedly most powerful man in the world - I think that there are more powerful people on the planet than the US President).
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(I say allegedly most powerful man in the world - I think that there are more powerful people on the planet than the US President).
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Ahh yes, the idea put forward by the Republicans that Clinton had his best friend from childhood and closest advisor, Vince Foster, killed. This was about as far 'out there' as the accusations got with Clinton, but considering the extraordinary efforts and money the Republicans put into trying to oust Clinton from office and tarnish any chance Gore would have for election, it was not suprising.
Lets get something straight, since you seem to know all the facts please provide...A dollar figure that republicans spent as you say trying to oust clinton. And I hate to burst your bubble but Gore shot himself in the foot. He was an idiot and still is. He pulled the rug from under lieberman and adopted howard deans rebel yell. Hell, his own state wouldn't even vote for him. Had nothing to do with clinton.
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So, we agree that 2 > 1. I'm so pleased. The bit I didn't get (do enlighten me) is how this makes Bush a better president than Clinton.
You are not worthy grasshopper...However, I'm not surprised…You don’t get much I’m sure….
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You know what, I can't identify a single one of them. Those 1,000 US troops and 4,000 Afghan civilians and 100,000 Iraqi civilians were probably just made up by the news, it never really happened. And the 3,000 in the planes and towers on 9/11 who would probably have been alive is Bush had bothered to go to work more often...but I can't name any of them, so lets not count them either.
Your case would not hold up in court. You can’t provide one name, so what we have here is a frivolous accusation. So, grasshopper, how can you say that HE has murdered anyone? You have no proof that he could have prevented 9/11 although there is proof that Clinton could have removed OBL. (audio tape) So using your same brilliant logic. LBJ, JFK, FDR Abraham Lincoln are all murderers.. Like I said before, stick to your equations…genius.


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Ah, I see I'm arguing with someone who had detailed knowledge of the exact nature of Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky - why didn't you say so earlier? Had I known you had proof he was taking advantage of her, I'd have kept my gob shut. Or....is it just that, like many who voted for Bush, you're a sexually repressed religious zealot who is more bothered by Clinton's naughty antics than Bush's mass slaughter?
Sorry to disappoint you, not repressed sexually or otherwise. I’m not a zealot won’t see me hammering other posters here who are known atheists…That’s their decision and yours not mine. Then there’s your stereotype…good one.. I see “the many” that voted for bush were sexually repressed religious zealots? why didn’t you say that you have remote audio/visual access to all bush supporters and can determine what is in our hearts and minds…WRONGO I suggest you take another look at the demographics…Mathematically what you just said here is impossible. Take a look at the numbers perform another calculation and provide me with the altered birthrate and increased Christian population based on your hypothesis…I am confident that you will find that the basis of your stereotypical remark was derived from “fuzzy math”…
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There are millions of women out there today that would jump at the chance to be involved with Clinton. He's powerful, rich, and important. A girl like Lewinsky is just one of those millions. Ever had a girlfriend who only hangs around you because you happened to be the winner of a recent race? Or because she knows you have money? Anyway, Clinton didn't take advantage of anything. It's not his fault that he was young enough to still be sexually active. I hope I am at that age. Doesn't make him any less capable of leading,,,in fact, it shows that he is still alive and kicking and full of energy. Just what I want in a president.
You mean a young intern. Has nothing to do about being sexually active. Frankly if my wife looked like hillary I would be hitting on homeless toothless old hags...It is entirely about the ABUSE OF POWER.
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You have no proof that he could have prevented 9/11 although there is proof that Clinton could have removed OBL. (audio tape) So using your same brilliant logic. LBJ, JFK, FDR Abraham Lincoln are all murderers.. Like I said before, stick to your equations…genius.
This is where we differ, Clinton's people specifically stressed the need for continued vigilence inre:al-qaieda. Bush's own guy was rebuffed by Ashcroft to the tune of "I don't want to hear any more about it !!!" according to Gen Clarks book. Also, Clinton launched a cruise missle (Navy) attack on al-qaieda in Afghanistan. That is my read on that.


[/QUOTE]Sorry to disappoint you, not repressed sexually or otherwise. I’m not a zealot won’t see me hammering other posters here who are known atheists…[/QUOTE] You are correct here, you don't harp on me about my science/evolution/humanist approach.
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