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Armed with the information that is available and documented, it appears that at federal level there was no support for Louisiana State.

But hey, Bush is never to blame for anything - right ?
Funny didn't china just have a typhoon strike...people died why? Don't see you blaming other world leaders when disaster strikes...somewhat hypocritical indeed...
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Funny didn't china just have a typhoon strike...people died why? Don't see you blaming other world leaders when disaster strikes...somewhat hypocritical indeed...
I don't recall Michael Moore making a doucmentary about typhoon's in China being the subject matter of the thread.

The subject matter under discussion is the response (or lack of) by the USA at State and Federal level to Katrina.
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Responsibillity starts with the first level of government not at the top there McFly....
Except when a Governor asks the President to declare a Federal State of Emergency (as Blanco did two days before landfall, and Bush agreed) ... the responsibility (of coordinating catastrophe-response) then lies with the President.

This procedure is outlined in par. 4 of the Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD5 (issued Bush February 28, 2003).
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So, armed with this information if you are the (mayor/govenor) wouldn't you have gotten your people out of there??? Responsibillity starts with the first level of government not at the top there McFly....

I actually disagree. The first level of responsibility in a free society starts with the individual.
That is a fact!
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I actually disagree. The first level of responsibility in a free society starts with the individual.
That is a fact!
Huskey get back to reality: we are talking about the the welfare state in NO and the government that created it, individual responsibility is not something understood in either circle.
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Huskey get back to reality: we are talking about the the welfare state in NO and the government that created it, individual responsibility is not something understood in either circle.
Sorry I just got caught up it my own little fantasy world of trying to be objective about the reality life.
I know better than to believe every thing I read. That's why I ignore stop signs.
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It is noticeable that many of the people left behind when Katrina hit, were the vulnerable - black, old, and poor people.

I respectfully suggest to those who put forward the suggestion that these people were free to move out of Louisiana, Mississipi etc, are being flippant.
The fact is that these vulnerable people did not have the means to get out of the path of Katrina.

In addition I would further say that it is unrealistic to suggest that vulnerable people who have barely anything, could be expected to freely leave Louisiana/Mississipi.
These people have no means of acquiring/retaining what little they do possess,
by leaving Louisiana/Mississipi.
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I actually disagree. The first level of responsibility in a free society starts with the individual.
That is a fact!
Would you please refrain from any further flippancy!
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It is noticeable that many of the people left behind when Katrina hit, were the vulnerable - black, old, and poor people.

I respectfully suggest to those who put forward the suggestion that these people were free to move out of Louisiana, Mississipi etc, are being flippant.
The fact is that these vulnerable people did not have the means to get out of the path of Katrina.

In addition I would further say that it is unrealistic to suggest that vulnerable people who have barely anything, could be expected to freely leave Louisiana/Mississipi.
These people have no means of acquiring/retaining what little they do possess,
by leaving Louisiana/Mississipi.

I am not hearing too much complaining from Mississippi. It seems they had their act together.
I would also suggest that the many, many that could have left and there were many, put an unusual burden on rescuers that caused even more tragedy.
Perhaps we should blame them for all the woes. Oh, I forgot they are minorities and will play the race card as a disadvantage.
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Would you please refrain from any further flippancy!
Yeah, personal responsibility?? Not only is that flippant its just plain nuts!!!!
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I am not hearing too much complaining from Mississippi. It seems they had their act together.
I would also suggest that the many, many that could have left and there were many, put an unusual burden on rescuers that caused even more tragedy.
Perhaps we should blame them for all the woes. Oh, I forgot they are minorities and will play the race card as a disadvantage.
Now that you mention it - would the Bush Goverment have been as slow to react if Katrina was due to hit say, Naples Florida ?
Given the demographics of Naples Fl., I would suggest that every possible assistance (if requested) would have been acted upon forthwith by Federal goverment.

I think the demographics pertaining to New Orleans and Louisiana in particular
ensured that a more rapid and professional response from the Federal authorities was never going to happen.
After all, vulnerable people don't have any real power, do they ?
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Now that you mention it - would the Bush Goverment have been as slow to react if the Katrina was due to hit say, Naples Florida ?
Given the demographics of Naples Fl., I would suggest that every possible assitance (if requested) would have been acted upon forthwith by Federal goverment.

I think the demographics pertaining to New Orleans and Louisiana in particular
ensured that a more rapid and professional response from the Federal authorities was never going to happen.
After all, vulnerable people don't have any real power, do they ?
I think what Limerickman is trying to say is that George Bush does not like black people.
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I think what Limerickman is trying to say is that George Bush does not like black people.
Bush doesn't.
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Now that you mention it - would the Bush Goverment have been as slow to react if the Katrina was due to hit say, Naples Florida ?
Given the demographics of Naples Fl., I would suggest that every possible assitance (if requested) would have been acted upon forthwith by Federal goverment.

I think the demographics pertaining to New Orleans and Louisiana in particular
ensured that a more rapid and professional response from the Federal authorities was never going to happen.
After all, vulnerable people don't have any real power, do they ?
Your are correct in part. The Governor of Florida and the city Of Naples have their act together as far as hurricanes.
Lim, you can't base your opinion on the UK. It works different here. The individual states bear the responsibility for themselves no matter how many people hate Bush.
You can't hang this on on him. Iraq is a much easier sell to bash him.Even the media has backed off since new facts have come to light.
Ask Jag what happened In New Orleans,he was there and I am sure he will tell the truth.
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Bush doesn't.
You have that on good authority from Kanye West.
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