The US..a poor international citizen..again.

A Colonel in the US airforce,a member of one of the military tribunals set up to try alleged terrorists,has stated"We don't care about International Law."
Why then,should International Law apply to us troops?
Should us troops be entitled to the protection of International Law?
Is the us entitled to protest about the treatment of its troops,when it has made public its contempt for the rule of Law?
Like the US constitution,the Geneva conventions...just a piece of paper.
Why?

Actually,I don't expect an answer.The neo-cons will run and hide ...again.

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Drink!Feck!Arrse!Girls!

If the US forces don’t respect international law – then they can’t invoke international law when their troops are mistreated.

We have had one member of the US military here – Roadhog – who says that he is compromised by the actions of others who mistreat their opponents.
I take Roadhog at his word.
We have to accept that some US forces do respect the Geneva Conventions, regardless.
But some US forces do mistreat the enemy – this has been proven by the Americans themselves.

Other apologists here though, in the past, got in to a semantic debate about what constitutes “enemy combatants” to try to justify the US mistreatment of opponents.

The US forces invaded another sovereign country (Iraq) – they did so based on a tissue of lies.

Any ethical or moral credibility the USA has – or claims to have – is negated totally by their illegal presence in Iraq.
It doesn’t surprise me that a US colonel would say what he is reported to have said : their mere presence in another country demonstrates to me that the USA has no regard for international law.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it" - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

I dont get this thread, the US proved it held international Law in contempt when it invaded Iraq, it teaches it citizens that they are special and the rest of the world are like poor cusins to be pitied, bullied and handed a crumb from time to time. Why then is it unusual for a colonel in the US army would say they dont care about internation law?

This has all been regurgitated before. So why are we bothering with it now?

Fixey, why do you say "you don't get this thread"? Are you really that stupid, or has the mass media finally completed their mind f*ck on you?

Most adults with a semblance of a brain and eyesight could have predicted the current situation.

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

Wurm, I think Fixey was being ironic.

You wouldn't have seen it but Channel4 7.00pm evening news programme has been transmitted each day this week from Iran.
C4 news is superb prohramme at the best of times but this week's editions have been a real insight in to Iran and the ongoing war in neighbouring Iraq.

C4 reported something very interesting last night.
With all the sabre rattling going on over Iran's nuclear programme, the USA has been laying on the rhethoric thick and fast.
But Jon Snow stated that he had been given sight of US State Dept documents showing the Bush administration asking Iran for help in Iraq!
I kid you not.

Snow says that he had a meeting with a US Dept official who showed him communications from the US Gov to the current Iranian goverment asking the Iranians for help in Iraq because "Iraq is sliding toward civil war" according to the US State Dept official.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it" - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Explain your situation then ??? I am so glad we have you around to tell us what we need to know.

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"Since we started [selling the Livestrong wristbands], we've sold 75 million of these bracelets," said Armstrong. "What's different this year, is that anybody who buys a bracelet during the Tour, all the money stays here. I think it's important for people to understand that the money they spend - 1 Euro - is not going to Texas or the United States, it stays in France."

Why wouldn't we ask for their help and cooperation in Iraq? We've done so with every one of their neighbors. It would be silly to overlook Iran's profound influence on the situation. I would be more surprised if this were *not* the case.

Never voted for any Bushes nor any Repubs anyway. Please, many of us are so ashamed of our country we could and do cry.

Not the same place we were even born in.

I hope that you all, in other countries, drag us into the Hague for war crimes, if nothing else, than to show the world that we are NOT above the law.

I can't figure out for the life of me, how this King George, and New World Order became. I hope we get out of middle eastern concerns ASAP and let the oil go to hell.

If Americans can build an A bomb in 3 years, I am sure we could find out how to live without middle eastern oil. You know, that old American know how, can do spirit that we used to have?

Someone/thing please bless America, for we need it now the most.

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"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." Sir Edmund Burke

Let's see...... The country you were born into ...... I am assuming you are 40 -48 years old ....... The country you were born into ...... The Kennedys wiretapping was the worst this country ever has had. Ask MLK . Kennedys Bay Of Pigs....... Kennedy was the one who thought we should use the military to spread democracy around the world. {Viet-Nam 59,000 dead}
The KKK was still powerful.
The old American know how???? America has not changed. What you need to do is stop listening to Bob Dylan and get a prescription for Prozac. Take some history courses at the local university.
Let the oil go to hell ???? That statement was probably the most airheaded comment that you have ever made.
And it is not the majority of people that are ashamed of this country.

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"Since we started [selling the Livestrong wristbands], we've sold 75 million of these bracelets," said Armstrong. "What's different this year, is that anybody who buys a bracelet during the Tour, all the money stays here. I think it's important for people to understand that the money they spend - 1 Euro - is not going to Texas or the United States, it stays in France."

How do you explain the emperor's errr...presidents abysmal approval ratings (34% )

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Never, ever was or will anything be "perfect"....utopia or the elyssian fields or nirvana just will never exist with people as they now are. 65,000 guys died in Viet Nam....I dated one of the boys that came home from Viet Nam.......he was a mess and I tried to make his life bearable, at least while I was dating him; he was going to a psychiatrist and attending college part time.

We should not be dependent on oil, even if we have to use horses for transportation. I fully believe that. So I don't care what u think.

Every country, everywhere around the world has their share of obscene indecency to go around and a long history of travesties.......not just the USA.

Everyone turns to us for a helping hand and then slaps us in the face.

Not only that, but the present adminstration has made us the laughing stock of the world..and his approval rating of 34% proves it.

He is the joke of the world, and that is shameful.....Kennedy made mistakes, but he knew how to talk the queens english, didnt spit on the white house lawn, got Cuba to withdraw their missiles back to the Sovient Union without starting wwIII......so don't rag to me about how bad Kennedy was. He was a moral man, a man of character and intelligence.

He didn't smoke pot, use drugs to excess and drink. He was a Catholic but didn't let it pervade his thoughts about upholding the constitution of our land.

Nixon and Agnew were a disgrace.

Bush I was a nabob.

The present guy, Bush, Rove, Chaney are the most evil people that I have seen in this country in my lifetime.

I hope we get outta here alive.

toots sweet, wolfie.

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"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." Sir Edmund Burke

I am a Catholic. But Kennedy was a moral man???? Ask Jackie........ Read the story about Ted Kennedy and his episode, and look who helped cover it up with in hours of it happening. The big meeting at the White House.
You don't have a clue about Kennedys agenda and the things his administration did to spread democracy..... Which Johnson furthered. Kennedy wanted our military to spread democracy.
As far as his civil rights agenda , you have to ask yourself how politically motivated it was. A black man never was invited to the Kennedy Compound. And we know how Joe K felt about blacks. Joe was upset at Frank Sinatra because he was friends with Sammy Davis Jr.
Kennedy came closer to WW3 then anyone since. Kennedy did not get the Russians to back down with diplomacy. He threatened the Soviet Union with nuclear annihilation. He was ready to use the bomb to get his way.
Instead of believing what you think happened, go back and read Kennedys speeches. Makes Bush look like a member of the left wing.
And I do not believe a man has bad character because he smokes pot.
Do not ever confuse Kennedy as a man of morality.

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"Since we started [selling the Livestrong wristbands], we've sold 75 million of these bracelets," said Armstrong. "What's different this year, is that anybody who buys a bracelet during the Tour, all the money stays here. I think it's important for people to understand that the money they spend - 1 Euro - is not going to Texas or the United States, it stays in France."

Big difference between having strong disapproval of a sitting President and being completely ashamed of our country as a whole. Come on now.

Did you know that the Kennedy family was a supporter of Hitler? That he advised America not to go to war with Hitler when he was ambassador. And when you read about the elections Joe worked for John it is really hard to describe any Kennedy as moral and a man of character.

But you talk of Nixon and Agnew. I always have to ask 'What made Nixon such a disgarce ?" .....You are just repeating something you heard when you were young. I don't think you have any idea.

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"Since we started [selling the Livestrong wristbands], we've sold 75 million of these bracelets," said Armstrong. "What's different this year, is that anybody who buys a bracelet during the Tour, all the money stays here. I think it's important for people to understand that the money they spend - 1 Euro - is not going to Texas or the United States, it stays in France."

LMFAO at this.....

His first sentance completly explains why I dont get this thread and his second sentence attacks me for making the very point he makes in the first sentance.

Let me dumb it down a bit just for you wurm......
I dont get this thread because it is akin to starting a thread stating the sky is usually blue or fire is generaly hot! get it now? if not let me know and I will dumb it down even more just 4 you : )