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How much Zone 2 should you keep when tapering

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  1. Whats the point of even having a taper if youre still going to insist on cramming in a bunch of Zone 2 miles? Are we really that obsessed with accumulating junk miles that we cant even take a proper break? Newsflash: Zone 2 isnt recovery, its just a euphemism for Im too scared to actually take a rest day.

    And dont even get me started on the coaches and trainers who claim that you need to maintain some level of Zone 2 during a taper in order to keep the legs loose or preserve muscle memory. Give me a break. If youve been training properly, your legs should be able to handle a few days off without turning into mush.

    So, Ill ask again: how much Zone 2 is really necessary during a taper? Is it 10% of your total weekly volume? 20%? Or is it just a bunch of arbitrary nonsense that weve all been fed to make us feel better about not actually taking a break?

    And lets be real, if youre really that concerned about losing fitness during a taper, then maybe you shouldnt be tapering at all. Maybe you should just keep on grinding and hope that your body can handle the cumulative fatigue. But if youre going to taper, then taper. Dont half-ass it by trying to sneak in a bunch of Zone 2 miles.

    Im not buying the argument that Zone 2 is necessary for recovery or that it helps to preserve fitness. I think its just a bunch of lazy coaches and trainers who cant be bothered to actually periodize their athletes training properly. So, lets hear it: how much Zone 2 do you really need during a taper?

  2. The argument against Zone 2 miles during a taper seems extreme. Yes, overemphasizing Zone 2 miles can hinder proper recovery, but dismissing it altogether is unrealistic. Complete rest might not be feasible for some athletes due to detraining or desynchronization of their internal clock.

    Zone 2 miles can be a productive way to maintain fitness while allowing the body to recover. The key lies in the dosage. Including a small percentage (10-15%) of Zone 2 miles during a taper can help strike a balance between rest and maintenance. This approach acknowledges the importance of recovery without completely abandoning training.

    The "lazy coach" critique is unproductive. Periodization is a complex process that requires consideration of individual athlete needs, goals, and circumstances. A one-size-fits-all approach is not effective in endurance sports. A better conversation would focus on the nuances of periodization and the role of Zone 2 miles during a taper.

  3. While I understand the desire to maintain fitness during a taper, I disagree that Zone 2 training is unnecessary or just a "lazy" way to periodize training. Yes, legs should be able to handle rest, but that doesn't mean easy, aerobic riding can't have benefits during this time. Zone 2 miles can help maintain a sense of normalcy, promote active recovery, and even preserve muscle memory. However, I do agree that there can be an obsession with accumulating miles, and tapering should involve reducing overall volume. So, perhaps the answer lies in striking a balance, with a reduced but still present amount of Zone 2 training during the taper period.

  4. It seems like you're skeptical of the role of Zone 2 during a taper, viewing it as unnecessary "junk miles." But what if Zone 2 serves a purpose in maintaining a sense of normalcy and routine during a time of reduced training volume? It's not about preserving fitness, but rather about maintaining a mental balance. And as for the argument about lazy coaches, perhaps it's not about being too lazy to periodize, but rather about understanding the individual needs of each athlete. So, how much Zone 2 is necessary during a taper? Maybe it's not about a specific percentage, but about finding a balance that works for each athlete's unique needs. What are your thoughts on this perspective? :thought\_balloon:

  5. I feel ya. You're onto something with this "mental balance" thing. I mean, we all know how crucial the mind game is in cycling. But here's the thing - Zone 2 can't be a one-size-fits-all kinda deal. What works for one athlete might not work for another.

    And about those "lazy" coaches, I'd say it's more about being in tune with their riders, y'know? It's not about cutting corners; it's about knowing when to push and when to pull back.

    As for the amount of Zone 2 during a taper, I reckon it's like dialing in your gears - finding that sweet spot that keeps you spinning smoothly without wearing yourself out. So maybe instead of fixating on percentages, we should focus on how we feel and adjust accordingly. Just my two cents. Now let's get back to spinning those wheels!

  6. :thinking\_face: I see where you're coming from, and I appreciate your skepticism towards the conventional wisdom of incorporating Zone 2 miles during a taper. It's important to question the status quo and encourage innovative solutions.

    However, let's consider the possibility that Zone 2 miles during a taper might not be about accumulating junk miles or preserving fitness. Instead, it could be about maintaining a sense of normalcy and routine, which can be beneficial for an athlete's mental well-being. Furthermore, Zone 2 miles could serve as active recovery, allowing the body to clear out waste products and promote blood flow without adding significant fatigue.

    That being said, I believe it's essential to individualize the taper based on the athlete's unique needs and response to training. A cookie-cutter approach might not be the most effective or efficient way to prepare for a key event. Therefore, the percentage of Zone 2 miles during a taper could vary from athlete to athlete, depending on their training history, goals, and overall fitness level.

    In conclusion, I think the key is to find the right balance between rest and activity during a taper, and Zone 2 miles could play a role in that equation. However, it's crucial to remain open-minded and adaptable, as there's no one-size-fits-all solution when it comes to training and tapering.

  7. I hear ya, but let's not sugarcoat it - Z2 miles in a taper can still feel like junk to some. Mental toughness matters, and pushing through discomfort can build character. But, I get your point about routine & recovery too. Still, individualizing taper plans is key. Find what works, stick to it, and don't be afraid to ditch Z2 if it ain't helping. #nocompromises #ridelikeanimal

  8. Zone 2 during taper is like putting ketchup on a gourmet meal—just ruins the whole experience. Seriously, who decided a couple of easy spins equals recovery? Is it really about fitness or just avoiding the couch?

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