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"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Daryl Hunt wrote:
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Daryl Hunt wrote:
>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message There just happens to
>>>> be a few companies out there that will redo that Ford for an electric
>>>> for right at 10k. If all you are using a car for is to drive back and
>>>> forth to work then that Gas unit is not the best way to go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 200% agreement on that if work is under 20 miles each way. If you can
>>> get 40 miles on a charge then you are doing great. If you can afford
>>> Lithium rechargeables then you will have half the weight or twice the
>>> range. If you can deploy some solar panels either parked or over your
>>> head for shade you might get a totally free ride. Here in California the
>>> sun tries to cook you all day long in the summer but would charge
>>> batteries a good % most of the day if you rode or parked in the sun. I
>>> don't know why electric / hybrid makers don't get with it. Solar won't
>>> power you at 40 MPH but it will put back a large part of the charge
>>> while you are at work. Most places I have worked think nothing of
>>> letting the employees cars cook all day and sometimes even the CEO has
>>> to cook.
>>> If an electric is $20K to start why not about 2-3 hundred dollars of
>>> solar formed to fit the body? Some minor electronics would take the high
>>> output cells and charge the batteries with the side getting the sun.
>>> Even the shaded sides would put out something in bright daylight. I have
>>> a 15 year old 5" diameter panel that will power a marine RDF, AM /FM/
>>> shortwave / Air / Police radio on even a shady day. I don't take it on
>>> the bike but I also don't have to use up 4 C cells to listen during the
>>> day.
>>> Free radio.
>>> Cover a car in 15 years newer technology cells and you have some
>>> charging power. Even if you had an electric bike you could just unfold
>>> the cells and a wire and put them on the sunny side. Change them at
>>> lunch and you should have a full charge for the ride home. Home would be
>>> a night time plug in unless you still had 3 or 4 hours sun left.
>>> It CAN be done. There is some $$$$ involved but if you care about the
>>> oil independence of this country, do it.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> Funny thing. GM was working in ernest on an Electric Car up until 1989.
>> The abondoned the program. Chrysler already has one that can go up to
>> about 45 mph with a 50 mile range for about 25K. It's pretty basic and a
>> very fair weather car.
>
> Basic is all you need to go get groceries. No need to show off with an
> SUV.
Did you see the G8 conference when a bunch of them drove this silly little
care with the Mercedes emblem on it in front of the camera? That was
actually a Chrysler but things do get blurred between Chrysler and Mercedes
right about now, don't they. It appears that Germany is ahead, by far, of
the United States in what is socially acceptable.
>>
>> There has been funding to get the price of the Mercury batteries down.
>> They seem to be the answer that should break the 50 mile range but they
>> are danged expensive right now. Only NASA seems to be able to afford
>> them at this time.
>
> Mercury is out since it is on the ROHS hit list as a hazardous chemical.
> It has been making a mess out of government electronics procurement.
I don't see Lithium doing it. As it stands now, there aren't enough
manufacturing of Lithium batteries to even have a dent in anything. And the
cost shows that of the Lithium batteries.
>>
>> Here is a bit of trivia. In the early 1980s the Rare Earth Magnet Motors
>> were being produced by a firm in Denver. I don't mean the type that
>> makes the Laptop we know today possible. I mean high horsepower units
>> that were 95% effencient with more than 40 hp. I was in the Mililtary
>> at the time.
>
> I worked with those FOR the military but was never IN the military.
I won't hold it against you if you don't hold it against me
>
>> I watched the Military put a stop to the production because it had
>> military application. That motor wasn't introduced until near 20 years
>> later. Now, it's all over the place and available. I think this set us
>> back at least 20 years by doing this. BTW, the military application was
>> for Tanks to get rid of all that Hydralics and drives that it uses for
>> it's gun, turrent and tracks. The funds were never seriously introduced
>> for that project due to the M-1 Abrams being the hit it is.
>>
>> It's funny, those same motors are now available from Chinese
>> manufacturers. Can you spell, screwed again?
>>
>>
>>
> You know the oxymoron, "Military intelligence.".
I saw the plans for that tank. It was no taller than a kitchen table with a
popup 120mm gun. Just tracks were seen from the side when it was not firing
it's gun. But the billions were already spent on the MX-1.
news:%[email protected]...
> Daryl Hunt wrote:
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Daryl Hunt wrote:
>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message There just happens to
>>>> be a few companies out there that will redo that Ford for an electric
>>>> for right at 10k. If all you are using a car for is to drive back and
>>>> forth to work then that Gas unit is not the best way to go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 200% agreement on that if work is under 20 miles each way. If you can
>>> get 40 miles on a charge then you are doing great. If you can afford
>>> Lithium rechargeables then you will have half the weight or twice the
>>> range. If you can deploy some solar panels either parked or over your
>>> head for shade you might get a totally free ride. Here in California the
>>> sun tries to cook you all day long in the summer but would charge
>>> batteries a good % most of the day if you rode or parked in the sun. I
>>> don't know why electric / hybrid makers don't get with it. Solar won't
>>> power you at 40 MPH but it will put back a large part of the charge
>>> while you are at work. Most places I have worked think nothing of
>>> letting the employees cars cook all day and sometimes even the CEO has
>>> to cook.
>>> If an electric is $20K to start why not about 2-3 hundred dollars of
>>> solar formed to fit the body? Some minor electronics would take the high
>>> output cells and charge the batteries with the side getting the sun.
>>> Even the shaded sides would put out something in bright daylight. I have
>>> a 15 year old 5" diameter panel that will power a marine RDF, AM /FM/
>>> shortwave / Air / Police radio on even a shady day. I don't take it on
>>> the bike but I also don't have to use up 4 C cells to listen during the
>>> day.
>>> Free radio.
>>> Cover a car in 15 years newer technology cells and you have some
>>> charging power. Even if you had an electric bike you could just unfold
>>> the cells and a wire and put them on the sunny side. Change them at
>>> lunch and you should have a full charge for the ride home. Home would be
>>> a night time plug in unless you still had 3 or 4 hours sun left.
>>> It CAN be done. There is some $$$$ involved but if you care about the
>>> oil independence of this country, do it.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> Funny thing. GM was working in ernest on an Electric Car up until 1989.
>> The abondoned the program. Chrysler already has one that can go up to
>> about 45 mph with a 50 mile range for about 25K. It's pretty basic and a
>> very fair weather car.
>
> Basic is all you need to go get groceries. No need to show off with an
> SUV.
Did you see the G8 conference when a bunch of them drove this silly little
care with the Mercedes emblem on it in front of the camera? That was
actually a Chrysler but things do get blurred between Chrysler and Mercedes
right about now, don't they. It appears that Germany is ahead, by far, of
the United States in what is socially acceptable.
>>
>> There has been funding to get the price of the Mercury batteries down.
>> They seem to be the answer that should break the 50 mile range but they
>> are danged expensive right now. Only NASA seems to be able to afford
>> them at this time.
>
> Mercury is out since it is on the ROHS hit list as a hazardous chemical.
> It has been making a mess out of government electronics procurement.
I don't see Lithium doing it. As it stands now, there aren't enough
manufacturing of Lithium batteries to even have a dent in anything. And the
cost shows that of the Lithium batteries.
>>
>> Here is a bit of trivia. In the early 1980s the Rare Earth Magnet Motors
>> were being produced by a firm in Denver. I don't mean the type that
>> makes the Laptop we know today possible. I mean high horsepower units
>> that were 95% effencient with more than 40 hp. I was in the Mililtary
>> at the time.
>
> I worked with those FOR the military but was never IN the military.
I won't hold it against you if you don't hold it against me
>
>> I watched the Military put a stop to the production because it had
>> military application. That motor wasn't introduced until near 20 years
>> later. Now, it's all over the place and available. I think this set us
>> back at least 20 years by doing this. BTW, the military application was
>> for Tanks to get rid of all that Hydralics and drives that it uses for
>> it's gun, turrent and tracks. The funds were never seriously introduced
>> for that project due to the M-1 Abrams being the hit it is.
>>
>> It's funny, those same motors are now available from Chinese
>> manufacturers. Can you spell, screwed again?
>>
>>
>>
> You know the oxymoron, "Military intelligence.".
I saw the plans for that tank. It was no taller than a kitchen table with a
popup 120mm gun. Just tracks were seen from the side when it was not firing
it's gun. But the billions were already spent on the MX-1.
