Wow, that really surprises me (and yet, not as much as it should). As
an occasional cynic, I have so wonder if some of that development that
went in to boron on the BB shell, etc. could have gone in to a simple
magnesium replacement to knock off at least 20 grams for much less cost
plus it could not just be deployed on every bike they use but on every
OCLV back to...1992? But that would not really help sales, would it
since manufacturers don't feel the need to quote frame weights with
those goodies installed (though some must and a deraillear hanger
should be included).
Say Mike, would it make sense to use a derailleur with its own forged
al clamp? Have you ever weighed that component (the steel hanger)?
Please post the weight of you have it. BTW, I bought this bike from you
as an emergency replacement for a stolen custom Klein with Record. It
was the only bike with either OCLV or Klein butted tubeset (road) with
Campagnolo (9-speed Veloce though!) Luckily I had considered the then
new 1992 OCLV when I ordered one of the first Kleins with the new
butted tudeset (same year though it only shipped in the fall of 93!)
and it was a close call between the OCLV and the Klain back then.
Having Campy only on the OCLV (in Feb 1998 when I had to replace it,
along with the slim chance I might get the Klein back made it an easy
decision to ge the OCLV back then). I also remember you had a Clark
Kent straight gauge used titanium bike with Chorus for a decent price
and I has a hard time getting Veloce over Chorus but I new the frame
was much better for my needs). I haven't dropped in since I moved up to
the Sierrs foothills in mid 2002 and injured my back during the move.
I still can't always walk (like today) but it rarely stops me from
putting in the time on the saddle. The shops up here are not anywhere
near the quality of the Bay Area (probably an indication of the
buyers). I miss guys like you, Tony up in Sausolito, etc. There is a
promising little LBS down near the community college called iBike, run
by a pair of good cycling guys. They have a dog in the shop whenever it
is open and that is a good sign IMO. They also carry some brands hard
to find in stock, like the Ridleys and some other high-end bikes like
Felt and similar brands. Cerelo wuold be a nice addition to their
selection....that is just my opinion.
Anyhow, thanks Mike. Any help on that or any other suggestions for
getting the weight down on this frame would be appreciated. I have a
Record h\s and bb, I got a really light collar from you in 200 or so,
Ritchey WCS stem, Deda 215 bar (when I can get a CF ergo bar in the 160
gram range then I will replace it) Record "D" calipers, Brifters, IRD
alloy ferrule cable housing, Eurus and other Campag wheels, Sell San
Marco SKN saddle, some fairly light steel allow cages I got from you
back in 1998 when I went through the first round of upgrades, oh, the
Record is all 2002 or newer) a collection of seatpins all trimmed to
length including the Thomson it came with, an American Classic original
version in black and silver (they go back ad forth on several bikes),
and a USE Alien with the unfortunately hard to adjust older 2 screw
clamping system, Speedplay X/2 pedals, some titanium skewers I got from
you in purple, burgundy and some ti skewers that shipped with Rolf
wheels. I think that is it. The only thing I can do without getting
crazy brake calipers, a saddle without padding, or $400 cf handlebars
are some 38 mm American Classic (ZIPP rims) wheels. Swapping from the
Eurus wheels I have would drop about a half Kilo and that would be
sweet for raceday up Mt. Diablo:>) other than that I think I did
everything I could. Did I miss anythiing?
Thanks again Mike
PS - If you think really hard you might remember my frame with the beat
up paint job (sivler blue and black) similar to my Klein's "UV" paint
(silver, purple and black). It is now Silver and and one light coar of
clear over the bare OCLV. I did not do it for weight, but I think that
saves weight too. That is what they did with the first 5900, isn't it?
The spray theme is like one of the Look models intended to make some of
the tubes look less bulky.
