2 newcomers: top grand tour racers in the making

[wicklow200]

2 newcomers showing up some top stars like C Moreau and Andreas Kloden

Roman Kreuziger sensationally took the lead of the TDS after a stubbing mtn time trial today, leading a star packed field including Kloden who was probably not holding anything back as he wont be going to the TdF

And Daniel Martin, the first year Irish pro, rode himself into the overall lead of the Route du Sud on Saturday, also on a big mountain stage

I have read that Martin was a big potential, apparantly a great climber. And he has just proven that he might have the right stuff at this level.

Kreuziger was a world junior champion a few years ago. His dad apparantly was a very good rider in the late 80s /90's . He might have won the tour of austria at one stage

And Martin's uncle is Stephen Roche.

Anyone know anything more about these guys?

 

[zlatan]

i saw the stages in the tour de suisse Roman Kreuziger just flew up the mountain but fade a bit the last 1.5km.

 

[Wayne666]

Anyone know anything more about these guys?

Kreuziger was a good cyclocross rider in the younger ranks too. I don't remember if he was ever the world champion but he was at least on the podium at worlds, as was the new French revelation L'Hotellerie.

 

[Runitout]

Kreuziger was a good cyclocross rider in the younger ranks too. I don't remember if he was ever the world champion but he was at least on the podium at worlds, as was the new French revelation L'Hotellerie.

Wonder if his training methods are as popular as L'Hot's are.

 

[Eldron]

2 newcomers showing up some top stars like C Moreau and Andreas Kloden

Roman Kreuziger sensationally took the lead of the TDS after a stubbing mtn time trial today, leading a star packed field including Kloden who was probably not holding anything back as he wont be going to the TdF

And Daniel Martin, the first year Irish pro, rode himself into the overall lead of the Route du Sud on Saturday, also on a big mountain stage

I have read that Martin was a big potential, apparantly a great climber. And he has just proven that he might have the right stuff at this level.

Kreuziger was a world junior champion a few years ago. His dad apparantly was a very good rider in the late 80s /90's . He might have won the tour of austria at one stage

And Martin's uncle is Stephen Roche.

Anyone know anything more about these guys?

I'm loving this cycling year for exactly that reason - can't remember when last I saw so many podiums by riders I don't know...

Hmmm either the underdog is kicking ass this year or I'm getting olde. Tough call...

Either way I'm hoping for a wide open TdF with long, suicidal breaks, the favourites having at least 2 bad days each, nobody finishing a stage looking daisy fresh and a horde of names I've never heard of.

Viva cycling viva!

 

[Anticyclone]

How about Pierre Rolland (Credit Agricole)? Won the mountains jersey in the Dauphine at the age of 21

 

[wicklow200]

How about Pierre Rolland (Credit Agricole)? Won the mountains jersey in the Dauphine at the age of 21

(always a bit sceptical about mts jersies since tricky Dicky Virenque used to go for it year after year in the tour. winners obviously deserve them for their efforts, but one big break on one day can often make the jersey. or a complete outsider being allowed to do one )

ill keep a look out for the name. is he doing the tdf?

 

[Anticyclone]

(always a bit sceptical about mts jersies since tricky Dicky Virenque used to go for it year after year in the tour. winners obviously deserve them for their efforts, but one big break on one day can often make the jersey. or a complete outsider being allowed to do one )

Yeah, thats true but in this race he was in a lot of breakaways rather than it just coming from one break - he came second to Dessel on stage 4, rode with the main group on stage 5 and finished with Dessel, Casar, Astareloza and Sastre. Stage 6 saw him in another breakaway - he took the points over the Croix de Fer but cracked completely on the final climb of Le Toussouire and lost 16 minutes. Stage 7 saw him off the front again, this time in a chase group - he managed to stay away but it was all a bit pointless in the end. Not the same as leading the group of favourites over every climb but promising nonetheless

ill keep a look out for the name. is he doing the tdf?

No idea. Seems a bit young to be making it through the mountains in the tour. Maybe he was aimed at the Dauphine? Seems like a name for the future though

 

[Anticyclone]

Just quickly scanning a few results on cyclingnews i see that Kreuziger made it through the Vuelta last year, finishing 21st overall. Its not quite as hard as the Tour perhaps but this year's tour wont be his first three-week stage race and maybe he will complete it all.

Rolland competed in the Paris-Nice and did quite well finishing 13th overall

 

[adamastor]

How about Pierre Rolland (Credit Agricole)? Won the mountains jersey in the Dauphine at the age of 21

Not riding this year. Too young.

 

[wicklow200]

Yes and Martin won his national championships last week too - both the Elite Mens and U23 road races. He absolutely destroyed the field although it wouldnt have the strongest field of any nat champs

Still adding up to a nice year for him

Kreuziger's 21st place in the Vuelta last year is impressive for a youngster.

 

[Wayne666]

Its not quite as hard as the Tour perhaps...

You know despite Armstrong's claims that the Tour is so much harder, usually he says than the Giro (don't ask me how he knows since I don't believe he ever rode the Giro), there was a study that used HR data from the Tour and Vuelta. They basically concluded they were comparable in difficulty, the Tour was longer so riders spent more time at easy or moderate effort levels and less at the hard level, with the shorter Vuelta the riders simply rode harder spending more time at the hard level and skipping a lot of easy/moderate riding.

 

[Crankyfeet]

You know despite Armstrong's claims that the Tour is so much harder, usually he says than the Giro (don't ask me how he knows since I don't believe he ever rode the Giro), there was a study that used HR data from the Tour and Vuelta. They basically concluded they were comparable in difficulty, the Tour was longer so riders spent more time at easy or moderate effort levels and less at the hard level, with the shorter Vuelta the riders simply rode harder spending more time at the hard level and skipping a lot of easy/moderate riding.

I don't think... I might be wrong... that his claims were that the tour was physically harder due to required effort (everybody should be completely farked at the end of any race if they've given 100%) so much as it was mentally stressful... staying out of crashes in the first week... and I suppose it's raced in a hotter climate than the Giro at least.

Like you say... Lance never rode the Giro AFAIK, so his comparisons can only be based on hearsay from others who have done both.