2008 Ftp?

Discussion in 'Power Training' started by rmur17, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. strader

    strader New Member

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    KP....................275W.......49kg.......5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
    MintID................370W.......77.5kg....4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
    Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
    PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
    pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
    esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg.......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    Rob P..................335W.........76kg.......4.40W/kg (Welsh 2nd Cat, 20.04 for 10m TT)
    strader...............295W.......67kg.......4.40W/kg (Expert MTB, Cat 5 Road)
    rmur (Nov. 08)...385W......88kg......4.38 w/kg (M40-49, from long L4 intervals, down ~5% from in-season)
    iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
    tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
    Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
    Markster...........309W.......74kg......4.18 W/kg (was 352W - 69kg - 5.10 W/kg during the season!)
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
    grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg.......4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    Sgrundy..............263W.......64.3kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 4, NYC, 20'MMP * 0.95)
    bigwillie013...........290W.......72kg......4.03W/kg beginner in racing loosing some fitness and gaining weight wrong way, eh?
    bigbadwoulfe.......293W.......72.0kg.....4.02W/kg (Over estimated my FTP. 320 down to this level. 3x20 @305 W used monod sheet)
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg.......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
    No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
    otb4evr...............375W.......99kg.......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
    Simone...............226W.......60,7kg.... 3.72 W/kg ([email protected], 30, rides for fun)
    artemidorus.........322W.......86kg.......3.71 W/kg (commuter, rides for fun, "races" friends, 38)
    ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg.......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
    kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
    Swampy.............305W......87.3Kg...3.50W/kg (Kicked in the Monads)
    dkrenik................260W......78.9kg.....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    Fergie.................261W.......89.5kg.......2.91W/kg (37yrs, 1.735m, 10m TT 25.00 on very slow course, MAP 367W)
    RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
    Felt_Rider...........190W.........78kg......2.43W/kg (club rider)


    60 minute test on the computrainer tonight. Pulled of 292 watt average in Erg mode, rounded up to 295 since I didn't bother with a taper.
     


  2. bigwillie013

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    Had a bad accident (broken cervical=Halswirbel), got surgery and was off the bike for 15 days. First try on the trainer yesterday (outdoors still way too dangerous for my totured neck) gave me a fair estimate of my NOW FTP. Will be stuck on my trainer for at least 4-6 weeks minimum. Let's see what I can do to get my FTP up again until year end.
     
  3. Alex Simmons

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    Testing this week. Doing a 16km TT and MAP test.
    Let's see eh?
     
  4. Alex Simmons

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    Part I done. A "short" 16km TT - 287W. Outdoors, PT, road bike. :D
    Part II - MAP test Friday.
     
  5. rmur17

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    well done Alex. I'm sure a lot of folks would like to match that power!
     
  6. Alex Simmons

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    Well I can tell you it was freaking me out as 270W was feeling too easy at the start and I kept wondering, when am I gunna hit that wall? After the legs said "I wanna do 280" I gave in and let them. :D

    Then they were pushing 290. Last few km were f'ing hard and I faded a touch. I dug in today. Legs felt good as soon as I got on the bike to warm up.

    4 laps: 281; 289; 290; 287W.
     
  7. rmur17

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    excellent! :)
     
  8. swampy1970

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    Nice! Great riding there Alex.
     
  9. kopride

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    Thanks for making the rest of us look bad. :eek:
     
  10. Bailsibub

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    Nice riding. Keep up the good work Alex.
     
  11. Bailsibub

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    KP....................275W.......49kg.......5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
    MintID................370W.......77.5kg....4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
    Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
    PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
    pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
    esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg.......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    Bailsibub..............285..........64 kg......4.45W/kg (former Cat 2)

    Rob P..................335W.......76kg.......4.40W/kg (Welsh 2nd Cat, 20.04 for 10m TT)
    strader...............295W.......67kg.......4.40W/kg (Expert MTB, Cat 5 Road)
    rmur (Nov. 08).....385W.......88kg......4.38 w/kg (M40-49, from long L4 intervals, down ~5% from in-season)
    iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
    tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
    Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
    Markster......... ..309W.......74kg......4.18 W/kg (was 352W - 69kg - 5.10 W/kg during the season!)
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
    grahamspringett....268W.....65kg.......4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    Sgrundy..............263W.......64.3kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 4, NYC, 20'MMP * 0.95)
    bigbadwoulfe.......293W.......72.0kg.....4.02W/kg (Over estimated my FTP. 320 down to this level. 3x20 @305 W used monod sheet)
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg.......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
    No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
    otb4evr...............375W.......99kg.......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
    Simone...............226W.......60,7kg.... 3.72 W/kg ([email protected], 30, rides for fun)
    artemidorus.........322W.......86kg.......3.71 W/kg (commuter, rides for fun, "races" friends, 38)
    bigwillie013.........270W......73kg.....3.69W/kg (german amateur masters racer 40, with accident)
    ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg.......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
    kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
    Swampy......... ....305W. .....87.3Kg ...3.50W/kg (Kicked in the Monads)
    dkrenik................260W......78.9kg.....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    Fergie.................261W.......89.5kg.......2.91W/kg (37yrs, 1.735m, 10m TT 25.00 on very slow course, MAP 367W)
    RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
    Felt_Rider...........190W.........78kg......2.43W/kg (club rider)


    I figured I'd get on the board before the year ends and also before Alex zooms past me!
     
  12. Alex Simmons

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    KP....................275W.......49kg.......5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
    MintID................370W.......77.5kg....4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
    Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
    PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
    pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
    esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg.......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    Bailsibub..............285..........64 kg......4.45W/kg (former Cat 2)
    Rob P..................335W.......76kg.......4.40W/kg (Welsh 2nd Cat, 20.04 for 10m TT)
    strader...............295W.......67kg.......4.40W/kg (Expert MTB, Cat 5 Road)
    rmur (Nov. 08).....385W.......88kg......4.38 w/kg (M40-49, from long L4 intervals, down ~5% from in-season)
    iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
    tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
    Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
    Markster......... ..309W.......74kg......4.18 W/kg (was 352W - 69kg - 5.10 W/kg during the season!)
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
    grahamspringett....268W.....65kg.......4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    Sgrundy..............263W.......64.3kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 4, NYC, 20'MMP * 0.95)
    bigbadwoulfe.......293W.......72.0kg.....4.02W/kg (Over estimated my FTP. 320 down to this level. 3x20 @305 W used monod sheet)
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg.......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
    No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
    otb4evr...............375W.......99kg.......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
    Simone...............226W.......60,7kg.... 3.72 W/kg ([email protected], 30, rides for fun)
    artemidorus.........322W.......86kg.......3.71 W/kg (commuter, rides for fun, "races" friends, 38)
    bigwillie013.........270W......73kg.....3.69W/kg (german amateur masters racer 40, with accident)
    ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg.......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
    kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
    Swampy......... ....305W. .....87.3Kg ...3.50W/kg (Kicked in the Monads)
    dkrenik................260W......78.9kg.....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    Alex Simmons.......275W.......87.5kg.......3.14W/kg (MAP 385W SRM, 10mi TT 287W PT, M45+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
    Fergie.................261W.......89.5kg.......2.91W/kg (37yrs, 1.735m, 10m TT 25.00 on very slow course, MAP 367W)
    RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Felt_Rider...........190W.........78kg......2.43W/kg (club rider)

    OK, MAP Test done this afternoon and managed 385W, a lift of 30W (+8.5%) on previous test. :)

    So with 10-mile TT of 287W (up 35W, +14% on previous test), I have settled on an FTP of 275W. Weight down to 87.5kg from 92kg (-5%).

    BTW - 385W is only 14W (3.5%) under my previous best MAP test result of 399W. OK, this test is on Thunderbird 7 with SRM and previous tests were on a computrainer and measured using my PT, so even allowing for some drivetrain losses, I attained at least 94% of my previous best MAP today.

    Must be all that mud I scrape of the bottom of my "shoe" when I pedal. :D

    Where are ya Fergie? :p
     
  13. swampy1970

    swampy1970 Well-Known Member

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    Nice, very nice. More power and less weight - two birds with one stone.

    I think I'm going to have to double my new meds if I'm gonna keep up with you! Now about that home liposuction thing... I don't see a clause in the Hoover warranty that's voided if I use if other purposes other than cleaning the living room floor. :p
     
  14. fergie

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    Hmmmm, lost some ground. Had a cold but was down to 88kg. Work has been the main priority and once through the Christmas madness will refocus on my sad totals. I must be a tactical genius because despite such bad numbers on the flat and track I can hang tough with the A grade locals.
     
  15. waterrockets

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    KP....................275W.......49kg.......5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
    MintID................370W.......77.5kg....4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
    Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
    PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
    pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
    waterrockets.....355W.......77.5kg....4.58W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg.......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    Bailsibub..............285..........64 kg......4.45W/kg (former Cat 2)
    Rob P..................335W.......76kg.......4.40W/kg (Welsh 2nd Cat, 20.04 for 10m TT)
    strader...............295W.......67kg.......4.40W/kg (Expert MTB, Cat 5 Road)
    rmur (Nov. 08).....385W.......88kg......4.38 w/kg (M40-49, from long L4 intervals, down ~5% from in-season)
    iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
    tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
    Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
    Markster......... ..309W.......74kg......4.18 W/kg (was 352W - 69kg - 5.10 W/kg during the season!)
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
    grahamspringett....268W.....65kg.......4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    Sgrundy..............263W.......64.3kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 4, NYC, 20'MMP * 0.95)
    bigbadwoulfe.......293W.......72.0kg.....4.02W/kg (Over estimated my FTP. 320 down to this level. 3x20 @305 W used monod sheet)
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg.......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
    No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
    otb4evr...............375W.......99kg.......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
    Simone...............226W.......60,7kg.... 3.72 W/kg ([email protected], 30, rides for fun)
    artemidorus.........322W.......86kg.......3.71 W/kg (commuter, rides for fun, "races" friends, 38)
    bigwillie013.........270W......73kg.....3.69W/kg (german amateur masters racer 40, with accident)
    ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg.......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
    kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
    Swampy......... ....305W. .....87.3Kg ...3.50W/kg (Kicked in the Monads)
    dkrenik................260W......78.9kg.....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    Alex Simmons.......275W.......87.5kg.......3.14W/kg (MAP 385W SRM, 10mi TT 287W PT, M45+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
    Fergie.................261W.......89.5kg.......2.91W/kg (37yrs, 1.735m, 10m TT 25.00 on very slow course, MAP 367W)
    RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Felt_Rider...........190W.........78kg......2.43W/kg (club rider)

    In Sept, I MAP tested at 452W, then I lost 12 lbs, and MAP tested at 488W. Go figure.
     
  16. rmur17

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    nice progress. You been training with Lance all fall? :)
     
  17. bubba 02

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    Just tested last night ! @ 84kg I pushed 354wts(n/p) for one hour straight on a set of cycle ops mag rollers. so about 4.2 wt/kg?? is that right? Two months ago I was at 335 for a 2x20. I would like to see 4.5-4.6 by the end of Febuary!
     
  18. fergie

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    Hmmm, do I go with my max CP of 282 watts that I get from climbing efforts or the 228watts from flat efforts. The flat value matches rather well with my flat racing and time trial efforts. But this would drop me down even further on the chart causing immense damage to my already fragile ego. If I do go with 228 for FTP then any Hill ride is going to create a really high IF and TSS which will make for a huge drop in TSB. But then seeing how much a decent hill ride takes out of me perhaps this is a good thing.

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  19. Yojimbo_

    Yojimbo_ Well-Known Member

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    My thought is that this site is either only populated by supermen or by many people who inflate their numbers.
     
  20. bubsy

    bubsy New Member

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    Well my thoughts are the people here are absolutly dead serious and passionate about their cycling and their performance and are looking for ways to squeeze an extra 1-2% more out of their training, with me as an example l constantly think about my next training session, my last training session, races that l plan to do in the next 6mths, 12mths, 2 years from now even, l would rarly go 4hrs a day without at least 1 thought of training, diet or cycling related equipment and has been that way for almost 5yrs since l bought my first road bike, some poeple like to garden, fish, collect stamps trade shares and these are the things that drive them and maybe what gets them out of bed everyday, so to me it is no surprise that there are impressive numbers floating around on this forum some might be completly bogus or highly inflated but l think the majority are for real +/- 5%.
     
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