2008 Ftp?

Discussion in 'Power Training' started by rmur17, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. PSUcycling

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    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    Markster.............332W.......72kg......4.6W/kg
    PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
    rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
     


  2. rmur17

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    hmmm ... some people need to learn how to sort in descending order!!!:D
     
  3. PSUcycling

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    its in the right spot i just wrote 4.46 instead of 4.56. :eek:
     
  4. rmur17

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    okay. Then Ade is the only violator :D
     
  5. PSUcycling

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    both fixed.
     
  6. giannip

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    Are you using current weight or racing weight?
     
  7. rmur17

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    current was my intention. It's all about progress, not a fixed point in time ...
     
  8. Markster

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    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
    Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
    rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

    Good bye plateau and 5week chest infection! :D
     
  9. Squint

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    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
    Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
    rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
     
  10. MidBunchLurker

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    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
    Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
    PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
    rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
     
  11. BullGod

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  12. swampy1970

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    I didn't know that using a Mac to post on this forum would effect power on the bike. ;)
     
  13. whoawhoa

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  14. no1kung1

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    Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg
    BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
    Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
    Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
    Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
    PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
    rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
    doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
    esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
    bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
    Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
    waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
    bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
    Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
    tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
    ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
    Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
    strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
    No1kung1..........294W.....77kg.........3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
    Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
    dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
    RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
    Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

    I was lactate tested in October. 220W...2.75 W/kg I've improved tremendously listening to my body and utilizing some of the good advice on this forum. I used to train by heart rate, but recently picked up a powertap (it has changed everything). Yesterday I did a 20 min LT test on a computrainer indoors and held 310 watts. So +90 watts in ~5 months. I've trained like a mad man (~15 hours a week). It's definitely a great feeling to see that pay off. :D
     
  15. Steve_B

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    I don't know about that. I know a pro that can't do 5.22 W/kg for an hour....but he is a sprinter. :)
     
  16. whoawhoa

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    I should clarify-I'm sure it's possible to be a pro with an ftp of 5.22 w/kg. But it's based on something other than your climbing ability. I also suspect you have to be significantly larger than 64 kilos.
     
  17. Porkyboy

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    Hi

    Just out of interest is everyone using the same method of determining their FTP? The reason I ask is because I can get very different results depending on the protocol I use.

    Using the 95% of the average power for a 20 minute TT as per Allen & Coggan's book (ie after the 100rpm spin sets and the 5 min flat out TT) my FTP would measure lower than if I rested well and then just blasted out a 20 minute TT from fresh and took 95% of that.

    Just curious, wondering if everyone does the "long" test - and my is it long or what! :eek:

    PBUK
     
  18. Squint

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    The protocol in the book never made sense to me. For awhile I used Monod but found it was hard to get good data. Even then, the predicted CP always seemed on the high side. I also didn't like losing training time by doing short tapers before the tests.

    I do 3x20 on an ergometer at a TSB of around -10 and use that as FTP. That allows me to avoid having to do any sort of taper and it counts as a workout, too.
     
  19. Porkyboy

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    Hi Squint

    Right... so you do 3x20 and use that as FTP? So are you calling your FTP the average power of the 3x20s? If so what sort of a recovery period do you have between the 20 minute efforts. Or are you taking 95% of the average of the 3, 95% of one of the efforts, or something else?

    Just trying to get it clear in my mind what your method of establishing your FTP is :confused:

    Cheers

    PBUK
     
  20. Squint

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    It's nothing complicated. I simply use method #6:

    http://www.cyclingforums.com/showpost.php?p=3237207&postcount=3

    Rest period is 5 mins and if I wasn't doing them on an ergometer, I would take the average of the 3. But because I'm doing them on the erg, I set the power for all 3 intervals equally and I either complete the workout or I blow up at some point and literally grind to a halt.
     
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