2009 Ftp
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Alex Simmons said:
Sure it is true that you won't see such relative gains anymore but it - even that you yourself might point that the return to within few percents of your previous best from a physiological point of view is logical - still doesn't make it less unbelievable and amazing!
Yeah, well maybe I needed a bit more than a cup of tea and half a bowl of cornflakes for brekky and two jelly snakes beforehand.swampy1970 said:
1st half (294W) was 10W less than 2nd half (304W).
BTW, my CTL that day was 69 TSS/day and my TSB was -31.
MAP test tomorrow. This will be interesting. I am hoping for 400W+ but by rights, I shouldn't get that high (it's possible but would be atypical). MAP usually needs a bit more freshness than TT tests.
Alex Simmons said:Yeah, well maybe I needed a bit more than a cup of tea and half a bowl of cornflakes for brekky and two jelly snakes beforehand.
1st half (294W) was 10W less than 2nd half (304W).
BTW, my CTL that day was 69 TSS/day and my TSB was -31.
MAP test tomorrow. This will be interesting. I am hoping for 400W+ but by rights, I shouldn't get that high (it's possible but would be atypical). MAP usually needs a bit more freshness than TT tests.
You could always try my 'breakfast of champions'. "Weapons grade" strength coffee and porridge with some strawberry jam followed by a banana.
For extra motivation consider a cattle prod.
All this 'scientific stuff' going on and you fuel up with Jelly Snakes.
410WAlex Simmons said:
I don't mind being atypical at times.
That, by the way, is an all time PB (pre- and post-accident).
PSUcycling..........345W........66.8Kg...5.2W/Kg (Cat1, Texas)
Markster.............358W........72.4kg.....4.94W/kg (from 40km TT)
Bailsibub.............310 W........64 kg......4.84W/kg (former U.S. Cat 2, now racing in Asia)
donm.................345W.........72.3kg.....4.77W/kg (planning to start racing soon, PT, based on routine 2x20min sessions)
Piotr..................266W........56kg......4.75W/kg (M35+A, Utah)
KP.....................240W........51kg.......4.70W/kg (elite female MTB)
R.o.t.Og.............340W........73kg......4.66W/kg (2nd cat roadie & timetrialist)
substructure.......352W........75.8kg.....4.64W/kg
rmur..................405W .......88kg...... 4.60 w/kg
waterrockets......355W........77.5kg.....4.58W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bubb02..............360w........80kg.......4.5w/kg(cat3, elite mtb)
strader..............300W........67kg.......4.48 w/kg (cat 1 MTB)
Phil S.................307w........69kg.......4.45w/kg (Uk cat 2, taken from best 60mins in a crit on 24.01.09)
Beison...............350w.........79kg.......4.43w/kg (cat 3, Chicago)
Atsic..................274W.......63,5kg....4.31 W/kg (Powertap, Long training season on the trainer, only from 1 month training on the road, waiting to have new results after training on road)
function..............340w.........80kg.......4.25w/kg (powertap)
Swampy............345w.........82kg.......4.21 watts/kg Less Lung - More Powercranks. PT/Monod.
iliveonnitro..........282W........67kg.......4.21W/kg (Madison, WI cat 3)
loctite...............344W........82kg........4.19w/kg(former pro MTBer Cat 2 roadie, coach, just back from a LONG injury)
Frost................360..........86Kg......4.19w/kg (finland, M35+ fun rider)
bigwillie013..........295W.......71kg......4.15W/kg (german amateur masters racer)
Crash716............290W.......70Kg.....4.14W/kg (Socal Cat 4 pack fodder)
tonyzackery.......360W.......90kg......4.00w/kg (42, cat.3, crit maniac)
Simone..............229W........60 Kg.... 3.81 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun, 92% of a 20' MAP test)
ruleof72.............280W.......74kg.......3.78W/kg (44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
liversedge..........285w........80.1kg.....3.5W/kg (42, DA SRM, Best 60 from 40kTT)
Alex Simmons......280W........82.0kg.....3.41W/kg (10mi TT 299W PT, 2x20's @ 280+W SRM, M45+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie...............285W.......84.5.......3.39W/kg (undertrained overworked coach, Commissaire and NZ Jnr Selector)
J\V......................263W.....78.5kg.....3.35W/kg (Cat. 4, racing age 45, in CO; TT'er, not a climber)
stjohnswell.........260W.......77.8kg.....3.34W/kg (37, commuting+sportives and latterly turbo training in order to htfu for la marmotte)
blackmamba44...272W........81.6 kg....3.33W/kg (35, cyclo, TACX, 5min(396w)+20min(286w) estimation test)
dkrenik..............265W.......81.6kg.....3.25W/kg (47, forever 4 in Colorado)
gimpy_calfee......260W........94kg........2.77w/kg(44yo partial quadriplegic in Ohio)
Eldrack..............Probably better…….....Than he………Thinks.
Markster.............358W........72.4kg.....4.94W/kg (from 40km TT)
Bailsibub.............310 W........64 kg......4.84W/kg (former U.S. Cat 2, now racing in Asia)
donm.................345W.........72.3kg.....4.77W/kg (planning to start racing soon, PT, based on routine 2x20min sessions)
Piotr..................266W........56kg......4.75W/kg (M35+A, Utah)
KP.....................240W........51kg.......4.70W/kg (elite female MTB)
R.o.t.Og.............340W........73kg......4.66W/kg (2nd cat roadie & timetrialist)
substructure.......352W........75.8kg.....4.64W/kg
rmur..................405W .......88kg...... 4.60 w/kg
waterrockets......355W........77.5kg.....4.58W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bubb02..............360w........80kg.......4.5w/kg(cat3, elite mtb)
strader..............300W........67kg.......4.48 w/kg (cat 1 MTB)
Phil S.................307w........69kg.......4.45w/kg (Uk cat 2, taken from best 60mins in a crit on 24.01.09)
Beison...............350w.........79kg.......4.43w/kg (cat 3, Chicago)
Atsic..................274W.......63,5kg....4.31 W/kg (Powertap, Long training season on the trainer, only from 1 month training on the road, waiting to have new results after training on road)
function..............340w.........80kg.......4.25w/kg (powertap)
Swampy............345w.........82kg.......4.21 watts/kg Less Lung - More Powercranks. PT/Monod.
iliveonnitro..........282W........67kg.......4.21W/kg (Madison, WI cat 3)
loctite...............344W........82kg........4.19w/kg(former pro MTBer Cat 2 roadie, coach, just back from a LONG injury)
Frost................360..........86Kg......4.19w/kg (finland, M35+ fun rider)
bigwillie013..........295W.......71kg......4.15W/kg (german amateur masters racer)
Crash716............290W.......70Kg.....4.14W/kg (Socal Cat 4 pack fodder)
tonyzackery.......360W.......90kg......4.00w/kg (42, cat.3, crit maniac)
Simone..............229W........60 Kg.... 3.81 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun, 92% of a 20' MAP test)
ruleof72.............280W.......74kg.......3.78W/kg (44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
liversedge..........285w........80.1kg.....3.5W/kg (42, DA SRM, Best 60 from 40kTT)
Alex Simmons......280W........82.0kg.....3.41W/kg (10mi TT 299W PT, 2x20's @ 280+W SRM, M45+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie...............285W.......84.5.......3.39W/kg (undertrained overworked coach, Commissaire and NZ Jnr Selector)
J\V......................263W.....78.5kg.....3.35W/kg (Cat. 4, racing age 45, in CO; TT'er, not a climber)
stjohnswell.........260W.......77.8kg.....3.34W/kg (37, commuting+sportives and latterly turbo training in order to htfu for la marmotte)
blackmamba44...272W........81.6 kg....3.33W/kg (35, cyclo, TACX, 5min(396w)+20min(286w) estimation test)
dkrenik..............265W.......81.6kg.....3.25W/kg (47, forever 4 in Colorado)
gimpy_calfee......260W........94kg........2.77w/kg(44yo partial quadriplegic in Ohio)
Eldrack..............Probably better…….....Than he………Thinks.
PSUcycling..........345W........66.8Kg...5.2W/Kg (Cat1, Texas)
Markster.............358W........72.4kg.....4.94W/kg (from 40km TT)
Bailsibub.............310 W........64 kg......4.84W/kg (former U.S. Cat 2, now racing in Asia)
donm.................345W.........72.3kg.....4.77W/kg (planning to start racing soon, PT, based on routine 2x20min sessions)
Piotr..................266W........56kg......4.75W/kg (M35+A, Utah)
KP.....................240W........51kg.......4.70W/kg (elite female MTB)
R.o.t.Og.............340W........73kg......4.66W/kg (2nd cat roadie & timetrialist)
substructure.......352W........75.8kg.....4.64W/kg
Bubsy................315w........68kg........4.63w/kg (pt taken from 136km handicap race)
rmur..................405W .......88kg...... 4.60 w/kg
waterrockets......355W........77.5kg.....4.58W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bubb02..............360w........80kg.......4.5w/kg(cat3, elite mtb)
strader..............300W........67kg.......4.48 w/kg (cat 1 MTB)
Phil S.................307w........69kg.......4.45w/kg (Uk cat 2, taken from best 60mins in a crit on 24.01.09)
Beison...............350w.........79kg.......4.43w/kg (cat 3, Chicago)
Atsic..................274W.......63,5kg....4.31 W/kg (Powertap, Long training season on the trainer, only from 1 month training on the road, waiting to have new results after training on road)
function..............340w.........80kg.......4.25w/kg (powertap)
Swampy............345w.........82kg.......4.21 watts/kg Less Lung - More Powercranks. PT/Monod.
iliveonnitro..........282W........67kg.......4.21W/kg (Madison, WI cat 3)
loctite...............344W........82kg........4.19w/kg(former pro MTBer Cat 2 roadie, coach, just back from a LONG injury)
Frost................360..........86Kg......4.19w/kg (finland, M35+ fun rider)
bigwillie013..........295W.......71kg......4.15W/kg (german amateur masters racer)
Crash716............290W.......70Kg.....4.14W/kg (Socal Cat 4 pack fodder)
tonyzackery.......360W.......90kg......4.00w/kg (42, cat.3, crit maniac)
Simone..............229W........60 Kg.... 3.81 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun, 92% of a 20' MAP test)
ruleof72.............280W.......74kg.......3.78W/kg (44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
liversedge..........285w........80.1kg.....3.5W/kg (42, DA SRM, Best 60 from 40kTT)
Alex Simmons......280W........82.0kg.....3.41W/kg (10mi TT 299W PT, 2x20's @ 280+W SRM, M45+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie...............285W.......84.5.......3.39W/kg (undertrained overworked coach, Commissaire and NZ Jnr Selector)
J\V......................263W.....78.5kg.....3.35W/kg (Cat. 4, racing age 45, in CO; TT'er, not a climber)
stjohnswell.........260W.......77.8kg.....3.34W/kg (37, commuting+sportives and latterly turbo training in order to htfu for la marmotte)
blackmamba44...272W........81.6 kg....3.33W/kg (35, cyclo, TACX, 5min(396w)+20min(286w) estimation test)
dkrenik..............265W.......81.6kg.....3.25W/kg (47, forever 4 in Colorado)
gimpy_calfee......260W........94kg........2.77w/kg(44yo partial quadriplegic in Ohio)
My first A race of the year and l cramped "bad" in the last ~30min so there is more in the tank, plus l'm not yet at my fighting weight of 63-65kg which l usually don't hit until late November so that will bring me to the magic number 5 that l have been chasing for 2 years, so now the new goal is 5.2w/kg.
And l'll get there l have no doubts what so ever
Markster.............358W........72.4kg.....4.94W/kg (from 40km TT)
Bailsibub.............310 W........64 kg......4.84W/kg (former U.S. Cat 2, now racing in Asia)
donm.................345W.........72.3kg.....4.77W/kg (planning to start racing soon, PT, based on routine 2x20min sessions)
Piotr..................266W........56kg......4.75W/kg (M35+A, Utah)
KP.....................240W........51kg.......4.70W/kg (elite female MTB)
R.o.t.Og.............340W........73kg......4.66W/kg (2nd cat roadie & timetrialist)
substructure.......352W........75.8kg.....4.64W/kg
Bubsy................315w........68kg........4.63w/kg (pt taken from 136km handicap race)
rmur..................405W .......88kg...... 4.60 w/kg
waterrockets......355W........77.5kg.....4.58W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bubb02..............360w........80kg.......4.5w/kg(cat3, elite mtb)
strader..............300W........67kg.......4.48 w/kg (cat 1 MTB)
Phil S.................307w........69kg.......4.45w/kg (Uk cat 2, taken from best 60mins in a crit on 24.01.09)
Beison...............350w.........79kg.......4.43w/kg (cat 3, Chicago)
Atsic..................274W.......63,5kg....4.31 W/kg (Powertap, Long training season on the trainer, only from 1 month training on the road, waiting to have new results after training on road)
function..............340w.........80kg.......4.25w/kg (powertap)
Swampy............345w.........82kg.......4.21 watts/kg Less Lung - More Powercranks. PT/Monod.
iliveonnitro..........282W........67kg.......4.21W/kg (Madison, WI cat 3)
loctite...............344W........82kg........4.19w/kg(former pro MTBer Cat 2 roadie, coach, just back from a LONG injury)
Frost................360..........86Kg......4.19w/kg (finland, M35+ fun rider)
bigwillie013..........295W.......71kg......4.15W/kg (german amateur masters racer)
Crash716............290W.......70Kg.....4.14W/kg (Socal Cat 4 pack fodder)
tonyzackery.......360W.......90kg......4.00w/kg (42, cat.3, crit maniac)
Simone..............229W........60 Kg.... 3.81 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun, 92% of a 20' MAP test)
ruleof72.............280W.......74kg.......3.78W/kg (44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
liversedge..........285w........80.1kg.....3.5W/kg (42, DA SRM, Best 60 from 40kTT)
Alex Simmons......280W........82.0kg.....3.41W/kg (10mi TT 299W PT, 2x20's @ 280+W SRM, M45+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie...............285W.......84.5.......3.39W/kg (undertrained overworked coach, Commissaire and NZ Jnr Selector)
J\V......................263W.....78.5kg.....3.35W/kg (Cat. 4, racing age 45, in CO; TT'er, not a climber)
stjohnswell.........260W.......77.8kg.....3.34W/kg (37, commuting+sportives and latterly turbo training in order to htfu for la marmotte)
blackmamba44...272W........81.6 kg....3.33W/kg (35, cyclo, TACX, 5min(396w)+20min(286w) estimation test)
dkrenik..............265W.......81.6kg.....3.25W/kg (47, forever 4 in Colorado)
gimpy_calfee......260W........94kg........2.77w/kg(44yo partial quadriplegic in Ohio)
My first A race of the year and l cramped "bad" in the last ~30min so there is more in the tank, plus l'm not yet at my fighting weight of 63-65kg which l usually don't hit until late November so that will bring me to the magic number 5 that l have been chasing for 2 years, so now the new goal is 5.2w/kg.
And l'll get there l have no doubts what so ever
Alex Simmons said:410W
I don't mind being atypical at times.
That, by the way, is an all time PB (pre- and post-accident).
Get that fitness in while you can. When you visit America I'm sure you'll be fed too much good food and beer.
You'll go home weighing 6kg more 
swampy1970 said:Get that fitness in while you can. When you visit America I'm sure you'll be fed too much good food and beer.
Yeah, there's plenty of good food in America - Mexican, Chinese, and Italian... And of course, there's Foster's.
You know of course that it's practically impossible to find Fosters in Australia.Piotr said:Yeah, there's plenty of good food in America - Mexican, Chinese, and Italian... And of course, there's Foster's.
Alex Simmons said:
Really? LOL. What about Castlemaine XXXX? That used to be touted as an Aussie beer back in England. Personally, after drinking a can I imagined Koala p1ss would taste about the same...
XXXX is more common but mostly in Queensland where it originated.swampy1970 said:
Marsuipial urine is extremely concentrated, not something you can associate with Fosters or XXXX. More like cat's ****.
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