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Not so much opposition as just bemusement, but if I want to give money to charity, why is some perceived hardship someone puts themself through of significance?
Hardship? In the 60s when charity walks became all the rage and the unwary were tempted into 50 mile road walks there was certainly considerable pain for some of the participants.
That's why I rather carefully added "perceived"! ;-)
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Some charities depend largely on volunteers but I suspect that at the top of almost any large charity are people who make more money running their charity that they could make working for anyone else.
There are certainly people making a comfortable living, but if you have the Clues to manage a logistic operation like, say, Oxfam, then I think it's fair to assume that a comfortable wage could be earned elsewhere. Also the case that you can't necessarily just pitch in and do that sort of thing at that level purely as a volunteer because it /is/ a full time job. Are such organisations unimprovable? Almost certainly not, but one thing that's a damn site /more/ improvable are the conditons where they're generally working. I could keep my money on the grounds that it could theoretically be better spent, but I don't really see that as helping anyone much.
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
"Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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That is basis for my opposition to charity events as well. That and the fact that the charity organisers make a very good living out of other peoples kindness.
There has been a trend in recent years to employ well-paid often-freelance fund-raisers who are more successful at bringing in the money than the in-house bods. They employ the sort of tactics routinely used by the commercial world but which some of us find questionable when used by a charity - such as these holidays, and the unsolicited free gift mailings which are supposed to trigger a gratitude or guilt response.
"Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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That is basis for my opposition to charity events as well. That and the fact that the charity organisers make a very good living out of other peoples kindness.
There has been a trend in recent years to employ well-paid often-freelance fund-raisers who are more successful at bringing in the money than the in-house bods. They employ the sort of tactics routinely used by the commercial world but which some of us find questionable when used by a charity - such as these holidays, and the unsolicited free gift mailings which are supposed to trigger a gratitude or guilt response.
I agree with some of the sentiments expressed and have some knowledge of this practice. My mother has a friend who is a charity fund raiser who estimates her annual income as around £50,000, she has very nice car, house and so on. She thinks she is one of the worst paid in this game. In her opinion the late Bob Hope earned millions through his "charity" golf events.
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Martin Richardson said:
Someone once earnestly explained to me that he was going to climb the second highest mountain in Britain - and he didn't mean yer Ben MacDui.
Saw something on Welsh TV a few days ago about some people climbing the "three highest mountains in Wales" for charity.
Snowdon, Cadair Idris and Pen y Fan!
Pen y Fan??
Just a few feet short of Rum Doodle, innit?
-- Martin Richardson 557/1554 Marilyns - less than 1000 to go(43 to HOF) 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go 61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go
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>> Saw something on Welsh TV a few days ago about some people climbing >> the >> "three highest mountains in Wales" for charity. >> >> Snowdon, Cadair Idris and Pen y Fan! >> >Pen y Fan?? > Just a few feet short of Rum Doodle, innit?
Pen y Fan 2906 feet Cadair Idris 2929 feet difference 23 feet.
Ergo Cadair Idris is Rum Doodle.
There's a stage of that argument missing somewhere. What's Rum Doodle? My point was though, that I thought there were summits in between Yr Wyddfa and Cadair Idris in height.
The message <[email hidden]> from Martin Richardson <[email hidden]> contains these words:
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> Saw something on Welsh TV a few days ago about some people climbing the > "three highest mountains in Wales" for charity. > > Snowdon, Cadair Idris and Pen y Fan! > Pen y Fan??
Just a few feet short of Rum Doodle, innit?
Pen y Fan 2906 feet Cadair Idris 2929 feet difference 23 feet.
Ergo Cadair Idris is Rum Doodle.
There's a stage of that argument missing somewhere. What's Rum Doodle? My point was though, that I thought there were summits in between Yr Wyddfa and Cadair Idris in height.
-- To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @ where common sense dictates.
In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> writes
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Saw something on Welsh TV a few days ago about some people climbing the "three highest mountains in Wales" for charity.
Snowdon, Cadair Idris and Pen y Fan!
Are you sure they didn't say Penycloddiau?
Penycloddiau?
Yeah - Penycloddiau.
-- Martin Richardson 557/1554 Marilyns - less than 1000 to go(43 to HOF) 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go 61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go
In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> writes
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the "three highest mountains in Wales" for charity.
Snowdon, Cadair Idris and Pen y Fan!
Pen y Fan??
Shouldn't that be "Cadair Idris??"
Paul
In the last couple of days my messages seem to be answered with one (or two) word questions:
Rum Doodle? Penycloddiau? Marilyns?
Am I living in a different world? I expect someone will answer with:
World?
-- Martin Richardson 557/1554 Marilyns - less than 1000 to go(43 to HOF) 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go 61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go
-- Martin Richardson 557/1554 Marilyns - less than 1000 to go(43 to HOF) 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go 61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go
