[email protected] wrote: > where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the zone diet come from Barry Sears' Ouija board. -- Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email protected]
[email protected] wrote: > where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the > zone diet come from It just works out that way for many people. Get enough protein, say .8g per pound for me (I'm a weight-lifter.) Get enough fat to feel sated, some of which comes along with the protein and some of which I add in the form of seed or nut oils. Leftover calories come from carbs that provide fiber and phytonutrients. Voila, it works out to roughly 30% of my calories from protein, 30% from healthy fats and the net is available for carbs. Because it's so easy to blow a calorie budget with simple carbs, in practice this means that I have to watch carbs carefully. It's not that my diet is LOW-CARB (I get between 40-50% of my calories from carbs) but that they are the ones that need the most monitoring in my life. When I log my food choices at www.fitday.com I often find that my ratios vary around 33/33/33 by +/- 10%. Doesn't matter. I've found a way of eating that leaves me feeling sated, with enough energy and doesn't blow my calorie budget. I've lost over 60 pounds of lard since I figured this out. Dally 244/180/170
[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>... > where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the > zone diet come from Good question. Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the food guide come from? TC
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Once upon a time, our fellow tcomeau rambled on about "Re: 40/30/30." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ... >Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the food guide come from? The digits: 0123456789. Just thought that you might want to know.
On 10 Mar 2004 09:58:54 -0800, [email protected] (tcomeau) posted: >[email protected] wrote in message >news:<[email protected]>... >> where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for the >> zone diet come from > >Good question. > >Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the >food guide come from? > >TC Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide I've ever seen, except the crap you write here. Only obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein, surely.
"Moosh" <[email protected]> wrote or quoted: > On 10 Mar 2004 09:58:54 -0800, [email protected] > (tcomeau) posted: > >[email protected] wrote in message news:<06ae2dd3- > >[email protected]>... > >> where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for > >> the zone diet come from > > > >Good question. > > > >Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of the > >food guide come from? > > Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide > I've ever seen, except the crap you write here. Only > obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein, surely. 30F-10P-60C is often seen as a conventional healthy diet. -- __________ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ [email protected] Remove lock to reply.
Once upon a time, our fellow Tim Tyler rambled on about "Re: 40/30/30." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ... >> Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide >> I've ever seen, except the crap you write here. Only >> obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein, >> surely. >30F-10P-60C is often seen as a conventional healthy diet. Actually, it is 30F-15P-55C for the person of normal weight. And, 35F-15P-50C for the obese sugar sensitive types. Just thought that you might want to know. Hark! My private health newsgroup beckons! -- John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science! The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the biopsychosocial model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 webpages, Nutrition (http://www.Food.NaturalHealthPerspective.com/) is now with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:06:14 GMT, Tim Tyler <[email protected]> posted: >"Moosh" <[email protected]> wrote or quoted: >> On 10 Mar 2004 09:58:54 -0800, [email protected] >> (tcomeau) posted: >> >[email protected] wrote in message news:<06ae2dd- >> >[email protected]>... > >> >> where does the seemingly arbitrary 40/30/30 ratio for >> >> the zone diet come from >> > >> >Good question. >> > >> >Here is another one: Where does the 30/10/60 ratio of >> >the food guide come from? >> >> Ummm, your imagination? Certainly not from any food guide >> I've ever seen, except the crap you write here. Only >> obsessed weight lifters would consume 60% protein, >> surely. > >30F-10P-60C is often seen as a conventional healthy diet. So long as your activity is high enough to allow a eucaloric diet of this ratio to supply sufficient protein, nothing wrong with this at all. BTW, I think the convention is C:F isn't it? You could reduce that useless fat intake to 29% and the protein can be raised to 20% and this is fine for lesser energy needs still getting an adequate protein intake.
