All we need now is a complaint post about quoting the whole thread in a followup, as well as top
posting... bait on the hook
Ritch
"Ben Long" <
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> Ah! Good to be back to aus.bicycle where every comment that has some vague relevance to cycling
> ends in a completely unrelated discussion about politics or religion!! Thanks for making me feel
> at home everyone... now back to the bikes...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
> "Tony" <
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> > What the hell is all this about, I made a comment about some idiot riding
> in
> > the fog
> >
> >
> >
> > "John L" <
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> >
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> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > Maybe we should be attending PC classes together. We both obviously have a twisted view of
> > > this new touchy, feely, apologise for having an opinion, world, where everyone is the same
> > > colour & has no opinion on anything
> > >
> > > John L.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:05:31 GMT, "Mark Lee" <
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> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Jose Rizal" <_@_._> wrote in message
> > > >
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> > > >> Mark Lee:
> > > >>
> > > >> >> "Zebee Johnstone" <
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>
> > > >> >> Why did he see the need to mention the race at all? The only
> *possible*
> > > >> >> reason is because he thought it was relevant.
> > > >> >>
> > > >
> > > >I didn't need to mention anything.... no details whatsoever.
> > > >
> > > >> >> Why was it relevant?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Maybe someone can tell me. If it's against your law for me to
> describe
> > > >what I saw, then how is anyone to judge anything.
> > > >
> > > >> > You've got me thinking now. Could she come from a country where
> everyone
> > > >> > drives on the right-hand side of the road? Or where very few
> people
> > > >> > (relatively) drive their own transport due to exorbitant garaging
> etc
> > > >> > costs... perhaps travelling mainly by train, bus, taxi or boat?
> Where there
> > > >> > isn't a culture of learning about vehicular operation in traffic
> from an
> > > >> > early age? Maybe a big city where it never gets truly dark?
> > > >>
> > > >> All this rhubarb is leading to what? A poor justification after the fact of making your
> > > >> race-specific statement? You mention the
> ethnicity,
> > > >> and think up of the reason afterwards? You're not thinking hard
> enough.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Asia's a big place. I would have to be from there to be able to "discriminate" between
> > > >different ethnicities.
> > > >
> > > >> > I know of someone who's learning to drive now as a mature adult who
> grew up
> > > >> > in a tiny village in a country where cars are very rare. One day
> she may be
> > > >> > out on our roads.
> > > >>
> > > >> Relevance of this?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Are we allowed to wonder?
> > > >
> > > >> > Roald Dahl relates a drive with his 21 year old sister during the
> 1920's in
> > > >> > his book "Boy" -incredibly dangerous due to the lack of training
> or
> > > >> > entrenched motorised transport culture.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ditto.
> > > >
> > > >Can you extrapolate?
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > "Thailand has the highest rate of road fatalities in the world at
> 40 deaths
> > > >> > for every 100,000 people, or 2.9 people dying an hour, a researcher
> said
> > > >> > yesterday.... about 17,520/year. ...six million people were injured in traffic accidents
> > > >> > and 100,000
> crippled
> > > >> > for life last year, according to the National Health
> nstitute." -from
> > > >> > online news sources
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Australian drivers may not be great, but obviously our transport
> safety
> > > >> > culture is better than some. Annual road toll here is ~1750.
> Comparative
> > > >> > populations 61 vs 19million. I'm sure car ownership rates are
> higher here
> > > >> > but the scooters/motorbikes there would skew the figures.
> > > >>
> > > >> Excellent. You've just explained that it is about ethnocentrism
> after
> > > >> all. You got pulled up for mentioning race in your observation, and then you dig up
> > > >> unrelated statistics to justify it. Where is the
> link
> > > >> to cycling in the dark witout lights while wearing dark clothes?
> > > >
> > > >I thought someone else had already mentioned the danger of "stealth"
> riding.
> > > >
> > > >> How do you know the woman you saw was Thai? Thais don't make up the whole
> of
> > > >> Asia. "Asians" can come from many countries in the region.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >What????
> > > >
> > > >> You probably could do with the benefit from a doubt though: why don't you think harder on
> > > >> why you thought ethnicity was important in describing a disagreeable event? You might be
> > > >> unaware of your own unintentional prejudices.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >The event wasn't disagreeable to me. I was alright, Jake. She (is
> that an
> > > >allowable word) could easily have come to a disagreeable end. Would
> that
> > > >have been evolution in action?
> > > >
> > > >Mark Lee
> > > >
> > >
> >