A Freak Of Nature



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This is the English translation of this article
http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2012/08/16/actualidad/1345140099_731003.html

Starting the Tour from which part of Pamplona, ​​tomorrow, and the way it does, with a team time, inevitably remind Miguel Indurain (Villava, close to Pamplona, ​​July 16, 1964), the best cyclist in history in Spain. Over the encascados, profiled aerodynamic sets the Estafeta, a question also inevitably arise: What role would the Indurain today, 48 years and over 90 kilos, with less kilometer bike leg in its active period, and more than 15 in the first stage of the Spanish ronde 2012?
It would not be so much a melancholy-rhetorical question to answer open to the imagination, as a real question with a real and studied response.[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]"More than 14 years after his retirement, Indurain absolute values ​​are higher than those of many young riders currently in the peloton," says Iñigo Mujika, a physiologist who submitted Indurain in 2010 to a complete stress test whose results against those of a study when his hour record 1994, just published in the[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]International Journal of Sports Physiology and Performance[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE].[SIZE=10.5pt][/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]"The aim of the study was to check the decline in physical ability of a great champion and compare it to other published cases. [/SIZE]And although this decline has been between 12% and 20% per decade decline than in other published studies with other athletes, which is estimated at 10%, and have trained more after leaving the professionalism, Indurain absolute values ​​are still higher than those of active cyclists. "
[SIZE=10.5pt]Their values ​​are so high, could be added, allowing confirm years later than those who [/SIZE]had in his splendor , between 1991 and 1995, when he won five times the Tour and amazed the world, were those of an authentic phenomenon of nature, of someone with a unique genetic. "An almost unique case, as were Anquetil, Hinault or Bahamontes" says Pedro Celaya, physiologist who has worked with Armstrong; "a phenomenon".
[SIZE=10.5pt]When Sabino Padilla, his physiologist at Banesto, and Mujika subjected him to a thorough study to gauge their chances of breaking the record of the time in the velodrome of Bordeaux in the summer of 1994 (he succeeded: 53.040 kilometers), Indurain had 30, measured 1.88 meters, weighed 81 kilos and ... 24,000 kilometers in the legs that season (he had just won his fourth Tour and had also raced the Giro). [/SIZE]Then their maximum oxygen consumption (the parameter that indicates the physical capacity of a person, which marks the limit of its performance) was very high, 79 milliliters per kilo and minute; Maximum production was 572 watts (7.1 kilo) and lactate threshold (time from which it can not sustain the effort for more than a minute) was 505 (6.23 per kilo). Her heart at that time, the threshold, beating 183 beats per minute.

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[SIZE=10.5pt]Following the light of the calculations made in the record allowed Padilla and Mujika establish that the watts needed to produce Indurain to travel 53.040 kilometers in one hour were 510. Many experts, comparing with other recordmen as Merckx (380) Rominger (456) and Boardman (462), then raised their eyebrows, skeptical, leaving aside the power to weight ratio harmed Indurain (6.29 watts / kilo) vs. Rominger (7 watts / kilo) or Boardman (6 7 watts / kilo). [/SIZE]The best riders of today in their ascents studied in big turns, throw watts of this caliber: 6.73 watts / kilo meter in the mean time of Verbier, when he won the 2009 Tour;6.33 Cobo Angliru in 2011; 6.16 Froome and Menchov the same day: 6.29 Wiggins in last year's Tour; 6.36 Sastre at Vesuvius ...
[SIZE=10.5pt]The data of the stress test carried out in 2010 by Mujika serve to ratify, however, the incredible natural potential Indurain. [/SIZE]When subjected to the study, she weighed 92.2 kilos, was 46 years old and had just cycled this year, and discontinuously, about 8,000 kilometers. Nevertheless, maximum oxygen consumption was 57.4 milliliters per kilo and per minute; its maximum watts, 450, and the threshold of 369 (4 watts / kilo), and with a heart beating at 170 beats per minute.
[SIZE=10.5pt]"These are values ​​that are now in cyclists, who have in their favor with the youth," says Celaya; [/SIZE]"However, today Indurain could not stand around, even losing weight, it plays against old age, an irreversible process that affects their ability to hormone production, muscle quality, the quality of the receiving ... In short, negatively affects their resilience, the basic parameter of cycling. "
Impressive data.
 
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AtlantaSports said:
I'm speechless. That is just insane.
Those numbers are phenomenal. If the Spanish doctors are saying that a 46 year old former professional cyclist is fitter than the majority of professional riders at that time, it is insane.

In the mid 1990's, the part of Spain where Indurain is from was producing endurance athletes in running and cycling. As well as Indurain, Spain was producing world class endurance runners like Martin Fiz and Abel Anton.

One study said that that region of Spain presented genetic evidence showing a predisposition to endurance events.

Whether that study was baloney or not I have no idea
 
limerickman said:
Those numbers are phenomenal. If the Spanish doctors are saying that a 46 year old former professional cyclist is fitter than the majority of professional riders at that time, it is insane.

In the mid 1990's, the part of Spain where Indurain is from was producing endurance athletes in running and cycling. As well as Indurain, Spain was producing world class endurance runners like Martin Fiz and Abel Anton.

One study said that that region of Spain presented genetic evidence showing a predisposition to endurance events.

Whether that study was baloney or not I have no idea
So you're saying that most Spaniards are better at long distance/endurance events? I would have never guessed that, to be completely honest.
 
Mig had the same physical gifts when he was struggling to crack the top 100 in the TdF. All of a sudden, he meets a guy named Dr. Francesco Conconi and vaults to the top step of the podium---weighing over 180 lbs. It's a biiger leap of faith to attribute that to his physical gifts than it is for Lance Dopestrong, who actually won a WC and a Tour stage before he discovered the EPO magic elixir.

Spain has always been dopers' paradise. Even now. They prosectue Fuentes and he walks out of court laughing after a slap on the wrist. And the mid 1990s were the golden years of synthetic EPO---no test had been developed to discover it.

Oh, and Pedro Celaya is under the same lifetime ban from WADA sports as his former client, good old Lance. Take what he has to say with more than a few grains of salt. As well as that of anyone who was affiliated with Banesto in the 1990s.

Freaks of nature like Anquetil and Hinault podium in their first GT. They don't finish below 100.
 
AtlantaSports said:
So you're saying that most Spaniards are better at long distance/endurance events? I would have never guessed that, to be completely honest.
No, it was focussed on athletes from the Basque Country and it said that people from that region were predisposed to endurance events.
 
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Mig had the same physical gifts when he was struggling to crack the top 100 in the TdF. All of a sudden, he meets a guy named Dr. Francesco Conconi and vaults to the top step of the podium---weighing over 180 lbs. It's a biiger leap of faith to attribute that to his physical gifts than it is for Lance Dopestrong, who actually won a WC and a Tour stage before he discovered the EPO magic elixir.

Spain has always been dopers' paradise. Even now. They prosectue Fuentes and he walks out of court laughing after a slap on the wrist. And the mid 1990s were the golden years of synthetic EPO---no test had been developed to discover it.

Oh, and Pedro Celaya is under the same lifetime ban from WADA sports as his former client, good old Lance. Take what he has to say with more than a few grains of salt. As well as that of anyone who was affiliated with Banesto in the 1990s.

Freaks of nature like Anquetil and Hinault podium in their first GT. They don't finish below 100.

I take your Anquetil/Merckx/Hinault (LeMond, Fignon) point. These guys were winning the major tours within a year or two of their professional debuts.
 
Who would've thought about this, honestly? Is the data given in the article legit enough though? I don't want to go to bed knowing that I read faux information. Please tell me.
 
limerickman said:
You've managed to go out of your way to help make MPR's point.
That was the point.

What Conconi did with Banesto in the 90's is the same as he did with Carerra in the 80's. No one left Banesto and rode better in other teams, similarly, no one ever left Carerra in the 80's and amounted to anything the following season. Roche did nothing following his stellar 1987 year until he returned to Conconi Carerra and finally won another stage in the the Tour 5 years after his overall victory.

Indurain was a good TT rider. Nothing more, nothing less. Just like Jalabert on the juice, he managed to ride up mountains faster than guys like Luis Hererra who were tens of kilos lighter. Does. Not. Compute.
 
limerickman said:
No, it was focussed on athletes from the Basque Country and it said that people from that region were predisposed to endurance events.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
swampy1970 said:
That was the point.
It wasn't the point that MPR made.
Your ability to never get the point that other posters make is getting very very tedious at this point. And what worse is that when you get called on it, you try to weasel your way out of it with more ********.

It begs the question, what's the point of having to read the drivel that you insist on posting throughout this site.
 

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