A question for the mods.

[Scott2468]

Its a shame to see so many threads deteriate into slanging matches especially when those involved have so much to offer.

But after reading this sites policy on being a member and posting. I have one question?



We also expect our users to adhere to certain rules of etiquette. Therefore, you agree not to post, email, or otherwise make available Postings:

• that are unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, pornographic, libelous, or invasive of another's privacy, or harmful to minors in any way;
• that harass, degrade, intimidate or are hateful toward an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability;
• that include personal or identifying information about another person without that person's explicit consent.
• that are false, deceptive, misleading, deceitful, misinformative, constitute "bait and switch" or impersonation of any person or entity;
• contain your own or a third party's advertising, branding or promotional content;
• that infringe any proprietary rights, including copyright, of any party, or Postings that you do not have a right to make available;
• restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Huddler or Cycling Forums sites or the Huddler or Cycling Forums services offered on them.

When is enough, enough?

 

[tonyzackery]

As being one of those involved in these "slanging matches" I must advise that I appealed to the mods many months ago that they contact this anonomous protagonist (that has persisted for almost 2.5yrs!) and direct him to discontinue his antagonistic behavior towards me. Obviously, my appeal fell on deaf ears. Therefore, the "dialogue" between he, and others that find in me their lightning rod to release their pent-up hostility towards the world, and I continues. Those that have been members of this board since the start of the Ibuprofen thread (winter 2008) have witnessed the progression of his digression...

The Silver Rule is in effect. I'm not interested in this silliness, but my fighting spirit and sense of humor are too strong to ignore it for long. Besides, as I've mentioned a time or two, I have to deal with mental midgets like these daily - it gets old after awhile, but I'm better equipped to handle the individuals on this site. Lastly, I don't take these people too seriously - how can you take an anonomous, fictional, cyberspace person very seriously??

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in." - Michael Corleone, The Godfather: Part III. I say this to myself frequently...

 

[swampy1970]

Lol My jibes about your ibuprofen addiction came way later than off the mark comments about my powercrank use and various current and ex training methods. If you wanna turn down the heat on this then I'll follow your lead... ... But I never will forget your very fictional "podium finish"... For 4th

 

[tonyzackery]

^^^Case in point.

He's just a sorry, delusional, anonomous little fat person who can't help himself. He looks at someone like me and his insecurities overwhelm him such that he'll say whatever he can (anonomously of course) to attempt to bring me down. My confidence only illuminates and magnifies his impotence. Sucks being him, I fully realize, but nothing more than a garden-variety "hater".../img/vbsmilies/smilies/biggrin.gif

 

[Jim Moore]

Originally Posted by tonyzackery .

^^^Case in point.

He's just a sorry, delusional, anonomous little fat person who can't help himself. He looks at someone like me and his insecurities overwhelm him such that he'll say whatever he can (anonomously of course) to attempt to bring me down. My confidence only illuminates and magnifies his impotence. Sucks being him, I fully realize, but nothing more than a garden-variety "hater".../img/vbsmilies/smilies/biggrin.gif

Uhhh ... your sig line quote is from a small green Star Wars character. You might not be quite as cool as you think you are.

May the Force be with you.

Sincerely,

Jim Moore

 

[bkwitche]

I didn't think you were allowed to male fun of people for Star Wars references on the Internet.

 

[tonyzackery]

Originally Posted by Jim Moore .




Uhhh ... your sig line quote is from a small green Star Wars character. You might not be quite as cool as you think you are.

May the Force be with you.

Sincerely,

Jim Moore

Looky what we have here - got another little person (possibly non-anonomous this time) who can't help himself. Quite obviously, his diagnosis is the same as the above - just more impotence magnified. And as previously mentioned, I deal with these types of guys daily, so handling them and their insecurities is of minor consequence.../img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif

 

[Jim Moore]

Originally Posted by tonyzackery .




Looky what we have here - got another little person (possibly non-anonomous this time) who can't help himself. Quite obviously, his diagnosis is the same as the above - just more impotence magnified. And as previously mentioned, I deal with these types of guys daily, so handling them and their insecurities is of minor consequence.../img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif

Sometimes I go fishing with my daughter in the local retention pond. We catch a lot of fish. They're kinda smart though. After a while, they realize what's going on and quit biting. You're not like them.

Sincerely,

JarJar

 

[Jim Moore]

Originally Posted by bkwitche .

I didn't think you were allowed to male fun of people for Star Wars references on the Internet.

I'm sure he though it was Sun Tzu. I was just helping him out.

 

[tonyzackery]

^^^yawn...he's just mad because I wasted some good sarcasm on him on another thread - panties are now in a twist and trying to regain some lost dignity...sad, but typical of the garden-variety.../img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif

 

[Froze]

Originally Posted by Scott2468 .

We also expect our users to adhere to certain rules of etiquette. Therefore, you agree not to post, email, or otherwise make available Postings:

• that are unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, pornographic, libelous, or invasive of another's privacy, or harmful to minors in any way;
• that harass, degrade, intimidate or are hateful toward an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability;
• that include personal or identifying information about another person without that person's explicit consent.
• that are false, deceptive, misleading, deceitful, misinformative, constitute "bait and switch" or impersonation of any person or entity;
• contain your own or a third party's advertising, branding or promotional content;
• that infringe any proprietary rights, including copyright, of any party, or Postings that you do not have a right to make available;
• restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Huddler or Cycling Forums sites or the Huddler or Cycling Forums services offered on them.

But I love it when we don't follow those rules, if we start a strict adherence to those rules then this site will become boring. Obviously there are some of the rules that should be followed and they are, but I see forms of mild harassment all the time; and false or misleading information? I doubt seriously if 100% of the members here actually ride a bicycle, I think there a lot of posers spouting off garbage they know nothing about or learned on the Internet so they can appear to be for real. It's like those guys I see riding $6,000 bikes with $1,000 in race clothing and I pass them with ease riding on old 80's steel bikes wearing Walmart jerseys and Nashbar brand shoes; then when they get a flat I have to help them because they don't have the tools or a clue as to how to fix it. I call those guys drug store racers, coining a phrase from the days of drug store cowboys.

So just sit back and relax because your spending unnecessary energy and stressing out your heart and mind trying to get angry about something that isn't going to change nor does anyone care.

 

[tonyzackery]

Above post makes a lot of sense.

However, I'm for ALL forums disallowing members to remain anonomous. Respectful behavior is a virtue and family value for me - but I am also not a 'turn the other cheek' type of guy - obviously. It's this anonymity and obscurity that promotes the anti-social behavior of many. I know, I know - there'll be many that believe removing the veil will stifle disagreement and discourse. I believe that's hogwash - people will adjust and truly find they can disagree in a manner that's much more respectful of all involved. Sure, there'll be those that still behave the way they always do regardless of this exposure of their true identity, but the clean-up would be incredible.

It'll probably never happen - requiring forum members to identify themselves - afterall, the forums are driven by how much traffic they generate, anonomous members included. But this requirement would be a beneficial evolution, IMO. Anonymity facilitates regressive behavior, again IMO. And yes, I'm entitled.../img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif

 

[Froze]

That's why I'm on forums like this because I don't want anyone to know who I am, I don't wish to have everyone know who I am because then a thousand questions will arise that I'm not the least bit interested in answering. And I'm sure there are others here who wish have privacy and they should. The privacy thing is not a law or a rule, nothing stops anyone here from posting their name for all to see...but they have the right to either post their name or not to. I prefer not to be known, and if the forum(s) ever changed the option requiring us to reveal ourselves then I would no longer be on it as I'm sure hundreds of others would not be on it either. So we take the risk that there could be bad info past along either on purpose or lack of knowledge, and hopefully others here will catch the bad info and correct the information. Some information is philosophical in nature, meaning there is no right or wrong just an opinion. Most of this stuff discussed on forums can be verified by checking on the Internet, in fact most questions asked can be found on the Internet, but a lot of people don't know how to find the answer or just like the ability to get the info on a forum dedicated for cyclists so they feel they belong to a club.

 

[tonyzackery]

^^^ More power to you on your desire to remain anonomous...you know where I stand on the matter...

This thread was started because of perceived poor behavior. Being identifiable means people can be held responsible and accountable for their behavior, and when that occurs people will make changes to their behavior for the better.

There are many on this forum who probably use their actual names for their screenname. Why do you think they do? I'll tell you why I do - it's because I'm not afraid of anything I say on this forum, have no issue being responsible/accountable for the things I say, and it's because I believe it brings credibility to what I say. But hey, that's just me...And you're right, more people than not would probably leave if they were required to divulge who they really were. Understandably, that wouldn't be good for Steve's (admin) business...

 

[jhuskey]

Possibly I have become a little numb as to what is offensive since I think this forum is tame in comparison to what it was a few years back. What is "enough" for one maybe be nothing to another but I will admit that some discussions do nothing for the credibility of some members.
The internet can be like alcohol and change the personality of people, some want to fight while others just like to get attention and be noticed. All in all if you take just what you want from it and can turn 180 degrees from the computer screen and leave it you will live a more stress free life. If you however try and live your life on line I wish you luck.

 

[tonyzackery]

Originally Posted by jhuskey .

Possibly I have become a little numb as to what is offensive since I think this forum is tame in comparison to what it was a few years back. What is "enough" for one maybe be nothing to another but I will admit that some discussions do nothing for the credibility of some members.
The internet can be like alcohol and change the personality of people, some want to fight while others just like to get attention and be noticed. All in all if you take just what you want from it and can turn 180 degrees from the computer screen and leave it you will live a more stress free life. If you however try and live your life on line I wish you luck.

And the church shall say, "Amen"...coming from a moderator whose task it is to keep order around here, these words speak volumes to those that have ears...thankfully I don't take this fantasy net world too seriously, otherwise I'd have jumped off a bridge a long time ago. LOL!

Personally, I don't see the appeal in the fantasy "net" world where individuals can assume different personas from that which they own in the "real world", and such - I am who I am here, there, and everywhere. I find this the only true virtuous way to live my life. But I don't necessarily begrudge those that don't share my view on this, to each his own - but lack of respect for others is extremely pervasive everywhere, not exclusively on the net where boorish behavior is made easy...people will be people...gotta take the good and bad with everything...

 

[Froze]

Originally Posted by Conakry .

^^^ More power to you on your desire to remain anonymous...you know where I stand on the matter...

This thread was started because of perceived poor behavior. Being identifiable means people can be held responsible and accountable for their behavior, and when that occurs people will make changes to their behavior for the better.

There are many on this forum who probably use their actual names for their screen name. Why do you think they do? I'll tell you why I do - it's because I'm not afraid of anything I say on this forum, have no issue being responsible/accountable for the things I say, and it's because I believe it brings credibility to what I say. But hey, that's just me...And you're right, more people than not would probably leave if they were required to divulge who they really were. Understandably, that wouldn't be good for Steve's (admin) business...

Are you a liberal? I ask this because you immediately jumped to the conclusion that I wish to remain anonymous so I can have an excuse for bad behavior thus you also didn't read my post correctly. I am somewhat known and wish to not be revealed so I don't have to be bothered with a thousand questions. But like most liberals they jump to conclusions and read into things that aren't there. There, I responded with bad behavior and since you don't who I am I'm safe.

 

[tonyzackery]

Originally Posted by Froze .


Are you a liberal? I ask this because you immediately jumped to the conclusion that I wish to remain anonymous so I can have an excuse for bad behavior thus you also didn't read my post correctly. I am somewhat known and wish to not be revealed so I don't have to be bothered with a thousand questions. But like most liberals they jump to conclusions and read into things that aren't there. There, I responded with bad behavior and since you don't who I am I'm safe.

You're cute - but not worth my time. Your perception is your reality, and I'll leave it at that - you can read whatever you choose into my words. Afterall, you're entitled to yours too.../img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif

 

[Froze]

Originally Posted by tonyzackery .




You're cute - but not worth my time. Sorry, but I don't swing that way; but thanks for the flattery!!