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A virus that can cause weight gain

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  1. I thought this was relevant to the "Three reasons why calories probably
    don't count" thread, but Google kept stalling before I could get to the
    end of the thread....

    I just interviewed Dr. Richard Atkinson, who studies an adenovirus that
    he believes is a major cause of obesity, and it was really interesting.

    The MP3 audio file is available at www.welltopia.com, but if you can't
    listen (or just don't want to), some of the major points are:

    * Studies they did on twins were very suggestive that the virus plays a
    role in weight gain in humans.

    * 60% to 100% of animals they infected became obese WITHOUT EATING MORE
    than the non-infected animals who didn't gain weight. (The 100% number
    is from monkeys. I forgot to ask if they were more sedentary...sorry.)

    * 30% of the obese people they tested had been infected with the virus,
    versus only 10% of non-obese people. (They think the 10% just haven't
    gotten obese yet.)

    He really does add more interesting information in the interview, and I
    hope you have time to listen to it; but even if you don't it is a
    really interesting idea and adds to the idea that calories alone aren't
    the only factor in why people gain weight.

    I would also recommend Gina Kolata's book "Ultimate Fitness". The book
    is way too long for what it is, but there are some really interesting
    bits about studies showing that people respond extremely differently to
    exercise. Supposedly 10% of people can exercise as hard as possible and
    never increase their VO2-max.

    Best wishes,

    Mignon Fogarty
    Absolute Science Podcast www.welltopia.com
    Download Apple iTunes and Subscribe

  2. [email hidden] wrote:
    || I thought this was relevant to the "Three reasons why
    || calories probably don't count" thread, but Google kept
    || stalling before I could get to the end of the thread....
    ||
    || I just interviewed Dr. Richard Atkinson, who studies an
    || adenovirus that he believes is a major cause of obesity, and
    || it was really interesting.
    ||

    Another fat excuse from a fat apologist. The big secret
    is diet and exercise.

  3. Thanks for this information on "other than only calories" effects.

    Not long ago, I posted some recent findings that there are animals and
    people who can eat a lot more than average and still not gain weight, as
    well as animals and people that can lose more weight on a specific
    calorie input than others.

    GROWTH HORMONE

    In the animal case, the easy weight losers had higher levels of growth
    hormone.

    In a small scale human study, they found that high levels of Human
    Growth Hormone (HGH) were present in those subjects who lost the most
    weight on an Iso-calorie diet.

    With age increase, HGH declines making it easier for older folks to gain
    weight.

    With exercise, HGH levels increase (often) and it is suggested that one
    role of exercise, beyond mere calorie burning, could be to increase HGH
    and metabolism.

    In other words, people are not identical mechanical fuel burners.

    Probably, anyone who raises lots of animals has observed that some gain
    weight much more easily than others.

    It is simply foolish to believe that all people metabolize food in the
    same way....

    We know of enzyme defficiencies that prevent people from metabolizing
    sugars - milk lactose and lactose intolerance.

    Lactose intolerance shows up pretty messily.

    Other enzyme defficiencies (there are millions of enzymes) can be
    present and not show up pretty messily, but more subtly such as
    increased or decreased propensity to gain/lose weight.

    The human body and its complexities makes rocket science look easy.

    We have far more "amateur diet experts" than "amateur rocket experts".

    Even "amateur rocket experts" know enough to treat their experiments as
    dangerous to life and limb. But, "amateur diet experts" display little
    such mature caution.

    Thanks again.

    Quoted message said:

    I thought this was relevant to the "Three reasons why calories probably
    don't count" thread, but Google kept stalling before I could get to the
    end of the thread....

    I just interviewed Dr. Richard Atkinson, who studies an adenovirus that
    he believes is a major cause of obesity, and it was really interesting.

    The MP3 audio file is available at www.welltopia.com, but if you can't
    listen (or just don't want to), some of the major points are:

    * Studies they did on twins were very suggestive that the virus plays a
    role in weight gain in humans.

    * 60% to 100% of animals they infected became obese WITHOUT EATING MORE
    than the non-infected animals who didn't gain weight. (The 100% number
    is from monkeys. I forgot to ask if they were more sedentary...sorry.)

    * 30% of the obese people they tested had been infected with the virus,
    versus only 10% of non-obese people. (They think the 10% just haven't
    gotten obese yet.)

    He really does add more interesting information in the interview, and I
    hope you have time to listen to it; but even if you don't it is a
    really interesting idea and adds to the idea that calories alone aren't
    the only factor in why people gain weight.

    I would also recommend Gina Kolata's book "Ultimate Fitness". The book
    is way too long for what it is, but there are some really interesting
    bits about studies showing that people respond extremely differently to
    exercise. Supposedly 10% of people can exercise as hard as possible and
    never increase their VO2-max.

    Best wishes,

    Mignon Fogarty
    Absolute Science Podcast www.welltopia.com
    Download Apple iTunes and Subscribe

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

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