Blair P. Houghton wrote:
|| Preston Crawford <
[email protected]> wrote:
||| On 2004-12-28, Blair P Houghton <
[email protected]> wrote:
|||| Hard to do on veggies. Takes a *lot* of calories to maintain
|||| 250 lbs of bulk. I know. I used to eat in a meal what I now
|||| eat in a day, and I'm eating pretty hearty now.
|||
||| Oh, I definitely didn't eat all veggies. There's a little salad
||| dressing here. Or cheese there, etc. So by vegetarian I don't mean
||| vegan, nor do I mean that my diet didn't contain only veggies. When
||| I lost it and afterwords it was mostly veggies, fruits, and a
||| decent helping of carbs every day. I've tried to shift some of
||| those carbs to meat, but with no success so far.
||
|| Some carbs have a lot of protein.
Some carbs have a lot of protein? Are you kidding, Blair?
Some meats have way more
|| fat than you think and some (many modern hams, for instance)
|| have way less. But most can be assume pretty fatty if
|| you don't see the fat content in numbers.
||
|||| Atkins is nuts. All the research shows that it just bores people
|||| into eating fewer calories.
|||
||| In the interest of not pooring gasoline on flamewars I wanted to
||| avoid, I won't comment on that except to say that I think there are
||| definite benefits to avoiding certain carbs. So I believe there is
||| some truth to what the low-carbers are pushing. But the science on
||| it right now is so confused as to be hard to figure out.
||
|| The hype is hard to figure out. The science is biology
|| and Atkins wasn't the only doctor who knew about persistent
|| ketosis, he's just the only one who thought it was part
|| of a "diet". The rest consider it a disease. I'm on their
|| side. Drastic measures aren't necessary.
Ketosis is not a disease. You're very much ignorant of the matter.
||
|||| Nothing is a "big problem" except total calories in minus total
|||| calories out being a positive number.
|||
||| I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps that's my problem and perhaps
||| keeping track is the answer. In the end, though, I wonder about
||| *what* I'm eating as well.
||
|| Get Tom Venuto's book.
www.burnthefat.com. It will tell
|| you everything I'm telling you, and it won't forget the
|| things I'm forgetting.
A hyped up website for sure. people don't need this book to lose weight.
||
|||| It has, but if you were still significantly fat at 238,
|||| you weren't close to having a problem metabolism.
|||
||| I wasn't really fat at 238, actually. By the BMI charts, yes. But
||| unless there are hidden stores of fat between my thigh muscles, I'm
||| extremely muscular in my lower body and thus I don't really see (at
||| that weight) where I could have lost more weight.
|||
|||| I don't know where that is for you, but even if you're a
|||| tall, broad guy, it's probably when you're under 200 lbs.
|||
||| Maybe.
||
|| Could be right near 200 lbs.
||
|| You should get a bodyfat caliper and measure yourself.
||
|| There are cheap ones available online.
||
|| It's an educated guess at the actual value of your bodyfat
|| percentage, but it's a great way to know when your weight
|| loss is coming from fat rather than muscle.
||
|| And it gives you one more trackable item to take solace in
|| when the scale says you didn't lose any. If the caliper
|| says you've got fewer millimeters of fat in any one of the
|| tested locations, you know you're still progressing and the
|| scale is just reading the last glass of water you had.
||
|||| Define "eating right". Do you know exactly how many calories
|||| you're eating now? Do you know how many you will eat tomorrow?
|||
||| No clue. I just try to eat the right things.
||
|| Lots of things I used to think were the right things
|| turned out to be hard to fit into a weight-loss diet.
||
|| Avocados have a ton of fat, "good" fat or not. Olive oil
|| is very "good" fat, but has the same problem: It's still
|| a lot of fat. Lean roast beef has three times the fat
|| of turkey. Roast chicken breast with the skin vs. without
|| the skin. Fruit juice has several times more sugar than
|| the same weight of the fruit it came from. Cheese has as
|| many grams of fat as protein.
||
|| They can be fit in, especially in small and carefully used
|| quantities. But they're not in the base set of things that
|| fit.
||
That makes little since. Do you plan to have a glass of olive oil with your
dinner?
It's very easy to lose weight eating high fat items you listed above. You
simply don't eat huge amounts of them.
|||| If you knew how many you were eating on average over the last two
|||| weeks, and that your weight was stable at that rate, and that your
|||| exercise is consistent (even if it's zero) and not merely
|||| occasional, could you then be disciplined and reduce your calories
|||| by 300-800
|||| per day? Or reduce your calories and increase your exercise to
|||| total
|||| a 300-800 calorie difference per day?
||||
|||| Because if you can do that, you'll lose 0.5 to 1.5 pounds a week.
||||
|||| Period.
|||
||| Thanks for the advice. I snipped because there was nothing more to
||| say. I'll look into what you suggested. Thanks.
||
|| Yer welcome.
||
|| --Blair
|| "It'll work."
