Abandon Ship?

[B. Lafferty]

The repercussions of the case are likely to go far beyond Heras's own
personal disgrace.

The exposure of the team's number one rider is likely to prompt insurance
giant Liberty to review their sponsorship of the Spanish-based outfit and
could cause other leading businesses to withdraw their support from cycling

The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport that has
had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in recent
years.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...S-CYCLING-HERAS-TEST.xml&pageNumber=0&summit=

 

[Tim Lines]

B. Lafferty wrote:
> The repercussions of the case are likely to go far beyond Heras's own
> personal disgrace.
>
> The exposure of the team's number one rider is likely to prompt insurance
> giant Liberty to review their sponsorship of the Spanish-based outfit and
> could cause other leading businesses to withdraw their support from cycling
>

Poor word economy. "The end is near!" gets the same point across in
fewer words.

 

[xzzy]

Brian, interesting points, I am sorry if my reply rambles as I am sick with
a fever today.

> The repercussions of the case are likely to go far beyond Heras's own
> personal disgrace.
> . . . . .
> The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
> riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport that
has
> had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
recent
> years.

yes, on the other hand, some other sports are viewed as clean because they
either do not test, or the terms for the testing are defined by the sport in
question's players.

do sponsors want to put their advertising dollars into
- a sport that is actively being a leader and looking for drug use to
keep things clean - I believe this is good,
- or do they want to put their dollars into sports that stick their head
in the sand ( for example baseball )
- or put their dollars into something like bodybuilding where drugs are
the norm
it's their choice to spend dollars to best promote their company. I am just
saying that if I was chosing, I would chose the people and sport that is
proactive.

The convictions of Hamilton, Heras, etc. can be viewed as either the glass
half empty or the glass half full.



"B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The repercussions of the case are likely to go far beyond Heras's own
> personal disgrace.
>
> The exposure of the team's number one rider is likely to prompt insurance
> giant Liberty to review their sponsorship of the Spanish-based outfit and
> could cause other leading businesses to withdraw their support from
cycling
>
> The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
> riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport that
has
> had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
recent
> years.
>
>
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=sportsNews&storyID=uri:2
005-11-25T184511Z_01_KNE558278_RTRUKOC_0_US-CYCLING-HERAS-TEST.xml&pageNumbe
r=0&summit=
>
>

 

[Fred Marx]

I see where **** Pound is going after the NHL now.... wow thugs on
drugs who would have ever guessed that was coming.

 

[Hunter]

Next on **** Pound's hit list: rappers.

 

[Kurgan Gringioni]

B. Lafferty wrote:
>
> The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
> riders on the circuit,


<snip>



Dumbass -


For the past several years you've been trying to make the case that
doping makes cycling less exciting.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

 

[B. Lafferty]

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>
>> The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
>> riders on the circuit,
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> For the past several years you've been trying to make the case that
> doping makes cycling less exciting.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.
>
I think the writer was engaging in hyperbole. Did you rent Adams' Family
Values and have a nice Thanksgiving?

 

[Curtis L. Russell]

On 26 Nov 2005 15:58:51 -0800, "Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Next on **** Pound's hit list: rappers.

Never get away with it, not just before the Christmas shopping season.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

 

[Kurgan Gringioni]

B. Lafferty wrote:
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > B. Lafferty wrote:
> >>
> >> The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
> >> riders on the circuit,
> >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> >
> > Dumbass -
> >
> >
> > For the past several years you've been trying to make the case that
> > doping makes cycling less exciting.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > K. Gringioni.
> >
> I think the writer was engaging in hyperbole.




Dumbass -

Heras won the Vuelta in the last week this year and what was it, 2
years ago?, he won it on the last day.

You are correct. Very, very boring.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:06:53 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The repercussions of the case are likely to go far beyond Heras's own
>personal disgrace.
>
>The exposure of the team's number one rider is likely to prompt insurance
>giant Liberty to review their sponsorship of the Spanish-based outfit and
>could cause other leading businesses to withdraw their support from cycling
>
>The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
>riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport that has
>had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in recent
>years.

I get the feeling this makes you very happy.

JT

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[B. Lafferty]

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:06:53 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>The repercussions of the case are likely to go far beyond Heras's own
>>personal disgrace.
>>
>>The exposure of the team's number one rider is likely to prompt insurance
>>giant Liberty to review their sponsorship of the Spanish-based outfit and
>>could cause other leading businesses to withdraw their support from
>>cycling
>>
>>The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
>>riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport that
>>has
>>had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
>>recent
>>years.
>
> I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>
> JT

Happy? No. But it really doesn't matter how I feel. It's how Liberty Mutual
and other sponsors (actual and potential) feel.

 

[Kurgan Gringioni]

B. Lafferty wrote:
> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>
> >>The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
> >>riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport that
> >>has
> >>had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
> >>recent
> >>years.
> >
> > I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
> >
> > JT
>
> Happy? No.



Dumbass -


No one here is fooled when you lie.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

 

[B. Lafferty]

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >>The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
>> >>riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport
>> >>that
>> >>has
>> >>had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
>> >>recent
>> >>years.
>> >
>> > I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>> >
>> > JT
>>
>> Happy? No.
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> No one here is fooled when you lie.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

Wrong yet again, Moron.

 

[[email protected]]

B. Lafferty wrote:
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > B. Lafferty wrote:
> >> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> >> > I get the feeling this makes you very happy.

> >> Happy? No.

> > No one here is fooled when you lie.

> Wrong yet again, Moron.

Okay, prove it. Point to one person who was fooled when you lied.

Ben
RBR Special Prosecutor

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:31:58 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >>
>>> >>The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most exciting
>>> >>riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport
>>> >>that
>>> >>has
>>> >>had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
>>> >>recent
>>> >>years.
>>> >
>>> > I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>>> >
>>> > JT
>>>
>>> Happy? No.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dumbass -
>>
>>
>> No one here is fooled when you lie.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> K. Gringioni.

I thought you were going to say "It's not a lie when I believe it."

Look inside yourself.

JT

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[B. Lafferty]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > B. Lafferty wrote:
>> >> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> >> > I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>
>> >> Happy? No.
>
>> > No one here is fooled when you lie.
>
>> Wrong yet again, Moron.
>
> Okay, prove it. Point to one person who was fooled when you lied.

You know what I was referring to.

 

[B. Lafferty]

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:31:58 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>
>>>> >>The positive from Heras, widely recognised as one of the most
>>>> >>exciting
>>>> >>riders on the circuit, further undermines the reputation of a sport
>>>> >>that
>>>> >>has
>>>> >>had its image badly tarnished by a succession of similar episodes in
>>>> >>recent
>>>> >>years.
>>>> >
>>>> > I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>>>> >
>>>> > JT
>>>>
>>>> Happy? No.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dumbass -
>>>
>>>
>>> No one here is fooled when you lie.
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> K. Gringioni.
>
> I thought you were going to say "It's not a lie when I believe it."

Is it not a lie when you believe it?

>
> Look inside yourself.

All the time. Didn't they give you some tools for that at Harvard. If they
didn't, let me know.

 

[Me]

On 11/29/05 4:58 PM, in article
[email protected], "B. Lafferty"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>>>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>>>>> I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>>
>>>>> Happy? No.
>>
>>>> No one here is fooled when you lie.
>>
>>> Wrong yet again, Moron.
>>
>> Okay, prove it. Point to one person who was fooled when you lied.
>
> You know what I was referring to.
>
Who's on first??

 

[B. Lafferty]

"Me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BFB23EDD.16E5B1%[email protected]...
> On 11/29/05 4:58 PM, in article
> [email protected], "B. Lafferty"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>>> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>>>>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>>> I get the feeling this makes you very happy.
>>>
>>>>>> Happy? No.
>>>
>>>>> No one here is fooled when you lie.
>>>
>>>> Wrong yet again, Moron.
>>>
>>> Okay, prove it. Point to one person who was fooled when you lied.
>>
>> You know what I was referring to.
>>
> Who's on first??

 

[Donald Munro]

B. Lafferty wrote:
>> Happy? No.

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> No one here is fooled when you lie.

He can't be a very good lawyer then. Perhaps he needs to brush up on Lying
101 as taught at most reputable law schools.