absolutely the worst driver justification

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I belive that by law you can not be on a phone while driving in New
York state, I'm not sure.
-Tim

 

[Bob]

Andy Gee wrote:
> "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > "Goddammit,
> > couldn't you see there was a car coming?"
>
> That's precious. I've seen moves like that, and guessed that was what was
> in their minds, but never had it crystallized so nicely.
>
> How about the general rules that turning traffic must yeild to straight
> through traffic, and that if you make someone apply the brakes, you've
> committed a reckless manouver. We are the bastards of the road.
>
> --ag

Andy-
Lighten up a little, Andy. We are not "the bastards of the road". The
bad, rude, impatient drivers you're complaining about are just as bad,
rude, and impatient when the other traffic consists solely of other
motor vehicles. The only difference is the other drivers don't hear the
comments and excuses cyclists hear because of the fleeting nature of
motorist-to-motorist contact. It's a little hard for them to scream
loudly enough to be heard by the driver they just cut off when that
driver is now half a city block away.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

 

[Claire Petersky]

"amakyonin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I disagree that the left side shoudn't be used on one way streets.

I agree with you, amkyonin.

> NY
> law doesn't specifically address this issue for bicyclists in the
> vehicle code.

Washington State law is specific -- you can be to as far to the left as is
practicable on one way streets. This is preferable on streets with a lot of
bus traffic (buses pulling in and out of stops) and those with a lot of
right turns. My personal preference in this situation is to be in the right
wheel well position of the #1 lane. That way you can get around left-turning
cars with ease.

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I interpret the "as far to the right as practicable" to
> mean that I can use the left lane whenever I would be inconvenienced
> otherwise. The law also provides additional support if you are
> preparing for a left turn. If I need to go a few blocks on a one way
> street before making a left turn then I usually stay on the left side.
> I always take the lane when doing this because there are too many
> hazards otherwise, particularly when passengers open the doors of
> parked cars on the left side. The presence of the construction barrier
> means that taking the lane is necessary in your case.
>
> The fact that the bike lane was placed on the left side of 10th Ave. is
> indication that that is where the city wants bicyclists to be under
> normal conditions. If traffic conditions make it too dangerous to stay
> in the left lane or you need to make a right turn eventually then it
> still may be best to go to the right lane.
>
>> So I'm on the right waiting for the light. Light turns green, I move.
>> car comes up from behind me, passes me, doesn't signal a turn, but then
>> starts rolling right across my vector. I slow down a little, just for
>> safety, not to yield, he keeps moving until it's clear he can't get by
>> either me or the pedestrians in the crosswalk. As I pass his nose, I
>> see he's on the phone.
>
> Handheld cellphone use is illegal while driving in NY state. IMO, any
> driver that wants to flaunt the law has voluntarily revoked their own
> right of way and bicyclists shouldn't feel the need to accomodate them.
>
> I always take the lane at stops to prevent the right hook maneuver. In
> NY moter vehicles can't legally pass a bicyclist in their lane when it
> is unsafe to do so. There is no safe way to pass while at a red light
> so you aren't interfering with the flow of traffic if you take the
> lane. Remember that these jackasses wouldn't be able to pass you if you
> were driving a Hummer or even a motorcycle. There is no reason that the
> standard behavior should change just because you are on a bicycle. By
> not taking the lane, you leave an opening for them to attempt this
> ********.
>