Abus U lock question

Discussion in 'Recumbent bicycles' started by Dh, Oct 4, 2003.

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  1. Dh

    Dh Guest

    It's weekend and the stores are closed so maybe someone can answer this for me. The U type locks
    (such as the Abus Granit 54), they can be mounted on the bike for easy use with a plastic holder of
    some sort, I believe. Can someone easily steal the lock while it is being stored in place? The one I
    saw in a store was behind glass and I didn't think to ask. I went to their web site, but saw nothing
    that might answer my question. Thanks! Dave
     
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  2. "DH" skrev...
    > It's weekend and the stores are closed so maybe someone can answer this for me. The U type locks
    > (such as the Abus Granit 54), they can be mounted on the bike for easy use with a plastic holder
    > of some sort, I believe. Can someone easily steal the lock while it is being stored in place? The
    > one I saw in a store was behind glass and I didn't think to ask. I went to their web site, but saw
    > nothing that might answer my question. Thanks! Dave

    The ones I've seen lock into the holder.

    M.
     
  3. Dh

    Dh Guest

    Mikael, thanks, DH
     
  4. Ian Smith

    Ian Smith Guest

    On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:19:28 +0200, DH <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It's weekend and the stores are closed so maybe someone can answer this for me. The U type locks
    > (such as the Abus Granit 54), they can be mounted on the bike for easy use with a plastic holder
    > of some sort, I believe. Can someone easily steal the lock while it is being stored in place?

    Yes, trivially. The lock isn't locked into the bracket, it just clicks into place and clicks out
    again. At least, that's the case with my Granit X-Plus 54, which has what they call a TexKF
    Montageanleitung (mounting bracket, I guess).

    If you mean more generically, the other U-locks I've had all locked into teh bracket, so you
    couldn't take them off without breaking teh bracket. However, teh bracket in all cases is a
    relatively weak bit of plastic and some energetic levering would get teh lock free pretty
    quick, I think.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  5. Tom Sherman

    Tom Sherman Guest

    DH wrote:
    >
    > It's weekend and the stores are closed so maybe someone can answer this for me. The U type locks
    > (such as the Abus Granit 54), they can be mounted on the bike for easy use with a plastic holder
    > of some sort, I believe. Can someone easily steal the lock while it is being stored in place? The
    > one I saw in a store was behind glass and I didn't think to ask. I went to their web site, but saw
    > nothing that might answer my question. Thanks! Dave

    Why would anyone want to steal a U-lock? It would not be very useful without the keys.

    And if the bike is in a place where theft is a concern, why not lock up the bike with the U-lock?

    Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers
     
  6. Ian

    Ian Guest

    Ian Smith must be edykated coz e writed:

    > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:19:28 +0200, DH <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> It's weekend and the stores are closed so maybe someone can answer this for me. The U type locks
    >> (such as the Abus Granit 54), they can be mounted on the bike for easy use with a plastic holder
    >> of some sort, I believe. Can someone easily steal the lock while it is being stored in place?
    >
    > Yes, trivially. The lock isn't locked into the bracket, it just clicks into place and clicks out
    > again. At least, that's the case with my Granit X-Plus 54, which has what they call a TexKF
    > Montageanleitung (mounting bracket, I guess).
    >
    > If you mean more generically, the other U-locks I've had all locked into teh bracket, so you
    > couldn't take them off without breaking teh bracket. However, teh bracket in all cases is a
    > relatively weak bit of plastic and some energetic levering would get teh lock free pretty quick,
    > I think.
    >
    The Mule rack from Topeak allows a standard u-lock to be mounted under the top plate, I think it
    locks in place.

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    Ian

    http://www.catrike.co.uk
     
  7. Dh

    Dh Guest

    Tom,

    > Why would anyone want to steal a U-lock? It would not be very useful without the keys.

    For the same reason anything in a public place is bolted down - people will steal and damage
    anything just because they can. Thieves are not known to be particularly bright, just damaging.
    >
    > And if the bike is in a place where theft is a concern, why not lock up the bike with the U-lock?

    I plan on using a U lock in addition to a cable lock in high theft areas.

    If someone can easily steal a U lock that is simply mounted and not locked on the frame, I'm still
    out 60 dollars and have to buy a new lock even if though the keyless U lock is of no use to them.

    Dave
     
  8. On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:56:16 +0200, "DH" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I plan on using a U lock in addition to a cable lock in high theft areas.
    >
    >If someone can easily steal a U lock that is simply mounted and not locked on the frame, I'm still
    >out 60 dollars and have to buy a new lock even if though the keyless U lock is of no use to them.

    And use only the cable lock in low theft areas? I'm not sure if that's wise. But if you insist. you
    could just take the U-lock and lock it onto the frame.

    (Or am I still missing the point here?)

    Ken Kobayashi [email protected]solar.mtk.nao.ac.jp http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayashi/personal/
     
  9. Dh

    Dh Guest

    > And use only the cable lock in low theft areas? I'm not sure if that's wise. But if you insist.
    > you could just take the U-lock and lock it onto the frame.
    >
    > (Or am I still missing the point here?)

    I just wanted to know how these locks were mounted on the frame as the Abus web site made no mention
    of any kind of additional mount.

    Just so you know, almost all the bikes here in the Netherlands have a lock that places a pin through
    the rear wheel's spokes, that's standard. If that's all you use, someone can still pick up your bike
    and walk away. A cable offers a little more protection and I use one exclusively. I was just curious
    about the U lock and the system used to keep it in place.
     
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