AFLD begins re-testing of 2008 Tour doping controls



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French anti-doping authorities have a list of 40 riders under suspicion of doping in the 2008 Tour de France, according to a report published in an Austrian newspaper. The French National Anti-Doping Agency (AFLD) has started testing samples taken from those riders during the 2008 Tour, with results expected in the next fortnight.

According to Austrian newspaper Kurier, Bernhard Kohl was officially questioned by representatives of the AFLD. After the official interrogation, Kohl met privately with Jean-Pierre Verdry, the director of the agency controls department. Verdry showed him a starting list from the 2008 Tour with about 40 names marked on it, with those riders being under suspicion of doping.

“When I saw this list, I was beside myself,” Kohl said. Verdry confirmed the meeting. “Yes, I showed him the list.”

AFLD Begins Re-testing Of 2008 Tour Doping Controls | Cyclingnews.com

I wonder who is on the list?
 

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i'm wondering if there aren't 60 riders wondering who the forty were.
 

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maybe, finally the world learns what a huge fraud McQuaid and his merry men and women at the UCI really are...

some more here...

Bordry: "Two New Products Were Used At The Tour" | Cyclingnews.com

my supsisious list..

Fabian Cancellara.. how was he dropping climbing specialists? the schlecks
Kim Kirchen.. always withing a few second of Schumacher in TTs
Christian Vande Velda.. c'mon..
Stijn DeVolder.. when did he learn how to climb like that and become a GT contender..?
Valverde, Evans, Sastre, Moreau (notice he just disapeared all of a sudden...? Kreuziger, Cobo for sure (the Saunier Duval that didn't get caught)!

ah.. why am i making a list.. the lot of them... i mean c'mon!! it's a dirty sport...
 

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doctorSpoc said:
maybe, finally the world learns what a huge fraud McQuaid and his merry men and women at the UCI really are...

some more here...

Bordry: "Two New Products Were Used At The Tour" | Cyclingnews.com

Interesting news article! Aicar is just what I need for breakfast ;)

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According to Le Monde, the two new products are hematide, a third-generation EPO that maintains haemoglobin levels, and Aicar, a product that works on muscular tissue and encourages the burning of fats. Bordry is quoted as saying he was shocked to see how thin some Tour riders looked.
 

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Good.

Hopefully Bradley Wiggins gets found out with about 50 other riders.

Wiggins weight loss was due to AICAR.
 

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Interesting news article! Aicar is just what I need for breakfast ;)

I looked into it.

You can get AICAR in the states.

A couple hundred dollars for only a small amount.

So it must work well.

Tempted to give it a try haha
 

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Good.

Hopefully Bradley Wiggins gets found out with about 50 other riders.

Wiggins weight loss was due to AICAR.


I have a feeling this is going to have more impact on the GC than the hardest mountain stages could :eek:
 

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Good.

Hopefully Bradley Wiggins gets found out with about 50 other riders.

Wiggins weight loss was due to AICAR.
When they retest 2009 samples, Wiggins could go down, as well as these 50 other you're mentioning. But I doubt this year's samples will be retested. If you ask me why? Because there's no suspicion based on tests done during the race - that's what they'll say. My opinion is - they don't need scandal in a moment when the Tour brings money and sponsors like during the most successful years. They don't need publicity based on anti doping fight when there is publicity based on rivalry between big stars.
 

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When they retest 2009 samples, Wiggins could go down, as well as these 50 other you're mentioning. But I doubt this year's samples will be retested. If you ask me why? Because there's no suspicion based on tests done during the race - that's what they'll say. My opinion is - they don't need scandal in a moment when the Tour brings money and sponsors like during the most successful years. They don't need publicity based on anti doping fight when there is publicity based on rivalry between big stars.

this year's will not be retested because this year's testing was under the authority of the UCI not the AFLD... and as we know the UCI is not interested in finding out the truth only in outing a few unlucky scapegoats to make it appear like they are really doing something... even though they are in reality a big fraud...

the only reason.. 2008 and potentially 2009 are/could be retested is because they were done under the authority of the AFLD not the UCI.
 

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If a considerable amount of riders are found to be wanting in 2008 the proposition that no re-testing need be done on 2009 samples by virtue of the fact no positives were originally found becomes an untenable position.

That is to say it is 'objectively' untenable. Ofcourse we are not dealing with objective characters in this here dalliance.

Depending on what comes out of this in the next few weeks - this will go very close to ending the sport for me.

There is no point helping to grow the sport in Australia if the end game involves sending kids off to europe to become fcukwits like Armstrong or Millar or Vaughters or Riis or Sanchez or Contador or Vinokourov or Saiz or Kohl or Valverde or Rasmussen or Basso or.....

Smashing other cunz whilst on drugs as competitors struggle to hang in the bus and thinking you are 'the man' is like a 12yo beating the sh1t out of his 5yo sister and thinking he is 'tough'.

I am getting tired of hanging out with people of lesser intelligenz. People who cannot run a sport or face up to the reality of it.
 

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this Bordry person, president of the French Anti Doping Agency, talks non sense.. the UCI blames him for seeking -harmfull- attention. Professional riders at the Tour don't need medication ( AICAR is the controversy i think ? ) to be thin... they have 30,000 kilometers on their bodies to start with !

it's more or less like being suspicious of African marathon and endurance events champions for their weight. I used to be 30 kilograms thinner just training and competing on weekend events, without any special diet.
 

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vspa said:
this Bordry person, president of the French Anti Doping Agency, talks non sense.. the UCI blames him for seeking -harmfull- attention. Professional riders at the Tour don't need medication ( AICAR is the controversy i think ? ) to be thin... they have 30,000 kilometers on their bodies to start with !

it's more or less like being suspicious of African marathon and endurance events champions for their weight. I used to be 30 kilograms thinner just training and competing on weekend events, without any special diet.

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I am getting sick of hanging out with people of lesser intelligenz.

I rest my fcuking case.
 

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If they don't retest this years samples then they should stop drug testing alltogether and let them dope.
 

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vspa said:
this Bordry person, president of the French Anti Doping Agency, talks non sense.. the UCI blames him for seeking -harmfull- attention. Professional riders at the Tour don't need medication ( AICAR is the controversy i think ? ) to be thin... they have 30,000 kilometers on their bodies to start with !

it's more or less like being suspicious of African marathon and endurance events champions for their weight. I used to be 30 kilograms thinner just training and competing on weekend events, without any special diet.

Cyclists don't need to take medication to lose weight? :confused:

Look up Nathan O'Neill. He wasn't busted for taking Beefcake 2000.

Why did Wiggins say he's riding well these days? What did Armstrong say was the reason he became a better rider after cancer? WHat is the most useful way to measure a rider's output? (hint: weight is the divisor).

***********, imagine what Ullrich could have done with AICAR.

Who's talking "non sense"?
 

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Cyclists don't need to take medication to lose weight? :confused:

Look up Nathan O'Neill. He wasn't busted for taking Beefcake 2000.

Why did Wiggins say he's riding well these days? What did Armstrong say was the reason he became a better rider after cancer? WHat is the most useful way to measure a rider's output? (hint: weight is the divisor).

***********, imagine what Ullrich could have done with AICAR.

Who's talking "non sense"?

but it's even more than that.. the drug allows you to utilize fats as you would normally utilize sugars (fats normally take long to and are difficult to breakdown). but fats are WAY, WAY, WAY more energy dense than sugars meaning that everyone's gasoline engine can be magically transformed into a diesel engine that will run on much less fuel and go farther than before.. it's more than just a weight loss drug.. weight loss is welcome a side benefit.
 

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AFLD: No new cases of doping from 2008 Tour de France

17 riders subject to retesting for EPO-CERA, all return negative result

The French anti-doping Authority (AFLD) announced today that retesting of 17 samples from the 2008 Tour de France has revealed no new doping cases.

The AFLD's Director Pierre Bordry made the announcement at a press conference in Paris and said that the samples of 17 riders had been retested for the presence of third generation Erythropoietin (EPO), CERA. Bordry said that all of the samples had returned negative results.

“The 17 retested controls were negative. It was not our goal to find anything.” said Bordry, according to German press agency dpa.

AFLD: No New Cases Of Doping From 2008 Tour De France | Cyclingnews.com
 

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Lets face it... This was just a publicity stunt. Another shout to the media along the lines of "LOOK AT UZ WE HATEZ DOPERZ!"

IF riders were taking Hematide then it should show up in the 'Blood Passport' readings and said riders should have been taken care of by now. AICAR... we that should have been spotted too as a test for that was available at the end of last year.

Whether the 'blood passport' program is really doing anything is another question entirely.
 

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