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  1. In the 1890s, inventors tried to replace chains with compressed air,
    hoping that the compression braking for down hills and the tiny
    reservoir to power the rider up climbs would overcome the hideous
    complexity:

    Deneal's locomotive-style air-drive:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=gv9YAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=582346

    Moore used treadles and an upright air reservoir on the seat tube:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=_2dFAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=596901

    Eyster used treadles and stuck the air tank on the down-tube:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=CrtRAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=602618

    Schmidt didn't think that weight mattered. The side view is bad
    enough. Everything turns out to be duplicated when you page down to
    the overhead view:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=nvptAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=614992

    Ubil used a normal frame as his air reservoir:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=I-tkAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=610956

    I have no idea if any of these monsters were ever built.

    Luckily, this strange air-drive approach seems to have been lost.
    Other odd drives still show up, but I don't recall any air-drive
    debates in RBT threads.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  2. Quoted message said:

    In the 1890s, inventors tried to replace chains with compressed air,
    hoping that the compression braking for down hills and the tiny
    reservoir to power the rider up climbs would overcome the hideous
    complexity:

    Deneal's locomotive-style air-drive:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=gv9YAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=582346

    Moore used treadles and an upright air reservoir on the seat tube:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=_2dFAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=596901

    Eyster used treadles and stuck the air tank on the down-tube:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=CrtRAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=602618

    Schmidt didn't think that weight mattered. The side view is bad
    enough. Everything turns out to be duplicated when you page down to
    the overhead view:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=nvptAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=614992

    Ubil used a normal frame as his air reservoir:
    http://www.google.com/patents?id=I-tkAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=610956

    I have no idea if any of these monsters were ever built.

    Luckily, this strange air-drive approach seems to have been lost.
    Other odd drives still show up, but I don't recall any air-drive
    debates in RBT threads.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    I recall Ducati using pressurized frames as a means of checking integrity;
    would work equally well for push-bike frames.

  3. On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:28:35 -0700, [email hidden] may have

    Quoted message said:

    Luckily, this strange air-drive approach seems to have been lost.
    Other odd drives still show up, but I don't recall any air-drive
    debates in RBT threads.

    Not so for cars, sadly. Wanton willingness to ignore Boyle (and
    thermodynamics) abounds.

    http://www.theaircar.com/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_air_vehicle

    Although one production model is supposedly about to become available,
    I doubt that the realities of the vehicle will prove as rosy as the
    forecasts. My prediction is that we will say "ta-ta to the Tata"
    before the end of 2009. (It would be sooner were the first ones not
    being sold in France, IMO.)

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