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Leo Lichtman
Guest
"Tom Sherman" wrote: They would be my tires of choice for use on
wheelbarrows.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As long as you keep the speed down.
wheelbarrows.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As long as you keep the speed down.
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Mike Kruger
Guest
"Benjamin Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>> Keyboard!
> >>>
> >>> I don't get it...
> >>
> >> Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
> >> makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
> >> caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
> >
> > rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
> > that;
>
> That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a fairly
> humourless bunch over here.
>
> However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.
>
Over here in .misc, we're into trolls, politics and helmet wars these days.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keyboard!
> >>>
> >>> I don't get it...
> >>
> >> Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
> >> makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
> >> caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
> >
> > rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
> > that;
>
> That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a fairly
> humourless bunch over here.
>
> However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.
>
Over here in .misc, we're into trolls, politics and helmet wars these days.
B
Benjamin Lewis
Guest
Mike Kruger wrote:
> "Benjamin Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keyboard!
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get it...
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
>>>> makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
>>>> caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
>>>
>>> rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
>>> that;
>>
>> That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a
>> fairly humourless bunch over here.
>>
>> However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.
>>
> Over here in .misc, we're into trolls, politics and helmet wars these
> days.
Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that "Troll, not
published helmet research" thread back when I was a young lad, and it was
still called "published helmet research - not troll".
--
Benjamin Lewis
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
> "Benjamin Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keyboard!
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get it...
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
>>>> makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
>>>> caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
>>>
>>> rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
>>> that;
>>
>> That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a
>> fairly humourless bunch over here.
>>
>> However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.
>>
> Over here in .misc, we're into trolls, politics and helmet wars these
> days.
Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that "Troll, not
published helmet research" thread back when I was a young lad, and it was
still called "published helmet research - not troll".
--
Benjamin Lewis
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
J
Just zis Guy, you know?
Guest
Benjamin Lewis wrote:
> Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
> "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
> lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread title
Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University
> Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
> "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
> lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread title
Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University
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the black rose
Guest
Mike Kruger wrote:
> "Benjamin Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>>>>>Keyboard!
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't get it...
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
>>>>makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
>>>>caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
>>>
>>>rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
>>>that;
>>
>>That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a fairly
>>humourless bunch over here.
>>
>>However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.
>>
>
> Over here in .misc, we're into trolls, politics and helmet wars these days.
Dang, is that argument still going? I marked that thread Ignore at
least a couple weeks ago.
-km
--
Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
> "Benjamin Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>>>>>Keyboard!
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't get it...
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
>>>>makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
>>>>caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
>>>
>>>rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
>>>that;
>>
>>That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a fairly
>>humourless bunch over here.
>>
>>However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.
>>
>
> Over here in .misc, we're into trolls, politics and helmet wars these days.
Dang, is that argument still going? I marked that thread Ignore at
least a couple weeks ago.
-km
--
Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts
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Lewis Campbell
Guest
[email protected] wrote in message:-
> I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
> exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
> will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
> non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
> use for these tires but it is not a reasonable solution to flat tires
> considering how many thousand miles most riders cover between flats.
> I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".
>
> Jobst Brandt
> [email protected]
****************************************
Well, Jobst, I can imagine it.
I have used several varieties of Airfree Tires for about 5 years now
and have been VERY happy with them, not that I don't also have bikes
with pneumatic tires but the 2 that are shod with Airfrees (a single
speed and a fixie) are just great machines for what I use them for.
Most people don't _understand_ Airfree Tires and herein lies the
problem.
1 ) You're NOT going to win the Tour using these tires. In fact, they
may actually slow you down but NOT very much.
2 ) They are VERY 'rim specific'.
Failing to understand these two things, coupled with so many people's
ineptitude to measure thing like rims accurately, is by far the cause
of most people's dissatisfaction with them.
There are differences between Airless tires from one manufacturer to
another which cause many of them to be VERY 'recreational' and there
is only one that I have tried, that could in my opinion, be considered
a 'performance' tire.
This means that for MOST people, riding on Airfree Tires will only be
a dream, until some manufacturer starts making them in a VARIETY of
POPULAR sizes.
I live that dream and I am loving it.
Lewis.
************************
> I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
> exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
> will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
> non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
> use for these tires but it is not a reasonable solution to flat tires
> considering how many thousand miles most riders cover between flats.
> I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".
>
> Jobst Brandt
> [email protected]
****************************************
Well, Jobst, I can imagine it.
I have used several varieties of Airfree Tires for about 5 years now
and have been VERY happy with them, not that I don't also have bikes
with pneumatic tires but the 2 that are shod with Airfrees (a single
speed and a fixie) are just great machines for what I use them for.
Most people don't _understand_ Airfree Tires and herein lies the
problem.
1 ) You're NOT going to win the Tour using these tires. In fact, they
may actually slow you down but NOT very much.
2 ) They are VERY 'rim specific'.
Failing to understand these two things, coupled with so many people's
ineptitude to measure thing like rims accurately, is by far the cause
of most people's dissatisfaction with them.
There are differences between Airless tires from one manufacturer to
another which cause many of them to be VERY 'recreational' and there
is only one that I have tried, that could in my opinion, be considered
a 'performance' tire.
This means that for MOST people, riding on Airfree Tires will only be
a dream, until some manufacturer starts making them in a VARIETY of
POPULAR sizes.
I live that dream and I am loving it.
Lewis.
************************
S
S o r n i
Guest
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>
>> Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
>> "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
>> lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
>
> The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread
> title
Now don't be bringing that sh^t down here.
Bill "it's like ebola, I tells ya" S.
> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>
>> Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
>> "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
>> lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
>
> The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread
> title
Now don't be bringing that sh^t down here.
Bill "it's like ebola, I tells ya" S.
T
tph
Guest
Hugh from Airfree Tires ignored my requests for a refund for 5 months...
but he replied to my e-mail within a day of my original Usenet posting.
Here is a little e-mail exchange:
--- [email protected] wrote:
> often times people get thier money back by disputing the charges
> with
> thier credit card company. Spewing venom may feel good for the
> short
> term but doesn't solve anything. If you are looking for a refund
> then
> fine, but before you write things you may later regret make sure
> you
> have checked your options. If you aren't satisified with your
> customer
> experience then yours will prove to be an isolated experience but
> you
> can still get your refund via your credit card. Companies make
> mistakes
> but your actions border on malicious.
>
> Hugh
>
My reply:
I truly cannot believe you replied to me after 5 months of sending
e-mails which you ignored. And after at least 15 answering machine
messages which you also ignored. And, now, your answer is basically,
get a refund thru your bank if you want. I have read your postings
about the wonderful integrity of your company, Hugh, so why don't you
prove it and REFUND my money???
And, if my experience is an "isolated" one, why does the South
Florida Better Business Bureau have an unsatisfactory rating for you?
I did not make that up, I can forward you their e-mail. Why don't
you provide refunds to unsatisfied customers? Why don't you EVER
answer your phone and respond to complaints?
I cannot believe after months of trying, the only response from you
is to accuse me of being malicious... Do you deny double billing my
credit card? Do you deny NEVER sending me the merchandise I PAID
FOR?? You say "companies make mistakes"... sorry, Hugh, this is more
than a mistake, it is a rip-off. Are you admitting a mistake? If so,
then why should I have to go through my bank to get a refund?
Prove me wrong, Hugh...go ahead and refund my money. I regret NOTHING
I have written, because it's the truth. BTW, you owe me $200.55. My
next "option" is small claims court...
but he replied to my e-mail within a day of my original Usenet posting.
Here is a little e-mail exchange:
--- [email protected] wrote:
> often times people get thier money back by disputing the charges
> with
> thier credit card company. Spewing venom may feel good for the
> short
> term but doesn't solve anything. If you are looking for a refund
> then
> fine, but before you write things you may later regret make sure
> you
> have checked your options. If you aren't satisified with your
> customer
> experience then yours will prove to be an isolated experience but
> you
> can still get your refund via your credit card. Companies make
> mistakes
> but your actions border on malicious.
>
> Hugh
>
My reply:
I truly cannot believe you replied to me after 5 months of sending
e-mails which you ignored. And after at least 15 answering machine
messages which you also ignored. And, now, your answer is basically,
get a refund thru your bank if you want. I have read your postings
about the wonderful integrity of your company, Hugh, so why don't you
prove it and REFUND my money???
And, if my experience is an "isolated" one, why does the South
Florida Better Business Bureau have an unsatisfactory rating for you?
I did not make that up, I can forward you their e-mail. Why don't
you provide refunds to unsatisfied customers? Why don't you EVER
answer your phone and respond to complaints?
I cannot believe after months of trying, the only response from you
is to accuse me of being malicious... Do you deny double billing my
credit card? Do you deny NEVER sending me the merchandise I PAID
FOR?? You say "companies make mistakes"... sorry, Hugh, this is more
than a mistake, it is a rip-off. Are you admitting a mistake? If so,
then why should I have to go through my bank to get a refund?
Prove me wrong, Hugh...go ahead and refund my money. I regret NOTHING
I have written, because it's the truth. BTW, you owe me $200.55. My
next "option" is small claims court...
Z
Zoot Katz
Guest
Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:57:22 GMT,
<[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
>I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".
Not all at once.
I'd think them suitable, though expensive, tires for bikes that are
left on trainers.
--
zk
<[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
>I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".
Not all at once.
I'd think them suitable, though expensive, tires for bikes that are
left on trainers.
--
zk
M
Mike Kruger
Guest
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>
> > Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
> > "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
> > lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
I was also an earlier contributor, and was roundly flamed for my trouble.
> The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread title
>
According to Google, this thread (under the title "Troll, not published
helmet research") began August 17, and has 222 postings (including today).
The earlier thread ("Published helmet research, not troll") began June 15
and had 1071 postings, including at least one yesterday.
These are only moderately sized helmet threads.
In fact, I suspect BillZ, TomK, FrankK and a couple of others now use bots
to reply, sort of like the dancing paper clip in Microsoft Word figures out
how not to answer your Help question.
(dropped .tech and .soc)
news:[email protected]...
> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>
> > Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
> > "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
> > lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
I was also an earlier contributor, and was roundly flamed for my trouble.
> The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread title
>
According to Google, this thread (under the title "Troll, not published
helmet research") began August 17, and has 222 postings (including today).
The earlier thread ("Published helmet research, not troll") began June 15
and had 1071 postings, including at least one yesterday.
These are only moderately sized helmet threads.
In fact, I suspect BillZ, TomK, FrankK and a couple of others now use bots
to reply, sort of like the dancing paper clip in Microsoft Word figures out
how not to answer your Help question.
(dropped .tech and .soc)
B
Benjamin Lewis
Guest
Mike Kruger wrote:
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
>>> "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
>>> lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
>
> I was also an earlier contributor, and was roundly flamed for my trouble.
>
>> The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread title
>
>>
> According to Google, this thread (under the title "Troll, not published
> helmet research") began August 17, and has 222 postings (including
> today).
>
> The earlier thread ("Published helmet research, not troll") began June 15
> and had 1071 postings, including at least one yesterday.
>
> These are only moderately sized helmet threads.
I believe there are more variant subject titles, stemming from the same
thread.
Aw, the li'l thread is now 3 months old. How quickly they grow!
I suspect no new content has been contributed for about 2 1/2 months...
--
Benjamin Lewis
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I read misc too. In fact, I even made some posts to that
>>> "Troll, not published helmet research" thread back when I was a young
>>> lad, and it was still called "published helmet research - not troll".
>
> I was also an earlier contributor, and was roundly flamed for my trouble.
>
>> The funny part is, Zaumie never even noticed the change in thread title
>
>>
> According to Google, this thread (under the title "Troll, not published
> helmet research") began August 17, and has 222 postings (including
> today).
>
> The earlier thread ("Published helmet research, not troll") began June 15
> and had 1071 postings, including at least one yesterday.
>
> These are only moderately sized helmet threads.
I believe there are more variant subject titles, stemming from the same
thread.
Aw, the li'l thread is now 3 months old. How quickly they grow!
I suspect no new content has been contributed for about 2 1/2 months...
--
Benjamin Lewis
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
B
Benjamin Lewis
Guest
[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:34:06 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:36:39 GMT, [email protected] (Muttley) wrote:
>>>> Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
>>>> makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
>>>> caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, you usually haven't actually soaked the keyboard - it's
>>>> just a sort of compliment.
>>>
>>> rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
>>> that;
>>
>> That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a
>> fairly humourless bunch over here.
>
> "Zingers from Jobst"... Yeah. Right. Good thing I wasn't scritching
> the cat when I read *that* line.
Actually, believe it or not, that part of my sentence was at least
partially serious.
--
Benjamin Lewis
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:34:06 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:36:39 GMT, [email protected] (Muttley) wrote:
>>>> Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
>>>> makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
>>>> caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, you usually haven't actually soaked the keyboard - it's
>>>> just a sort of compliment.
>>>
>>> rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
>>> that;
>>
>> That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a
>> fairly humourless bunch over here.
>
> "Zingers from Jobst"... Yeah. Right. Good thing I wasn't scritching
> the cat when I read *that* line.
Actually, believe it or not, that part of my sentence was at least
partially serious.
--
Benjamin Lewis
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
M
Mike Schwab
Guest
[email protected] wrote:
>
>
> I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
> exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
> will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
> non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
> use for these tires but it is not a reasonable solution to flat tires
> considering how many thousand miles most riders cover between flats.
> I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".
>
> Jobst Brandt
> [email protected]
I do recreational riding.
I was getting at least 1 flat a week.
Can't jump curbs with a recumbent.
I tried jumping a curb with a Waterford road bike and went over the
handlebars.
I hit a pot hole with aired tires with my recumbent, and blew the tire
and bent the rim (flared out on both sides).
>
>
> I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
> exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
> will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
> non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
> use for these tires but it is not a reasonable solution to flat tires
> considering how many thousand miles most riders cover between flats.
> I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".
>
> Jobst Brandt
> [email protected]
I do recreational riding.
I was getting at least 1 flat a week.
Can't jump curbs with a recumbent.
I tried jumping a curb with a Waterford road bike and went over the
handlebars.
I hit a pot hole with aired tires with my recumbent, and blew the tire
and bent the rim (flared out on both sides).
P
Pat
Guest
> >
> Prove me wrong, Hugh...go ahead and refund my money. I regret NOTHING
> I have written, because it's the truth. BTW, you owe me $200.55. My
> next "option" is small claims court...
Go file in small claims court. When I filed against a woman who pushed a
shopping cart into the side of my car, the next thing I knew, I got a letter
from the Judge Judy television show wanting to pay my way to California to
appear on the television show. Evidently, the show gives the local clerks
bonus money if they forward interesting claims to Judge Judy. I would have
gone, too, but the woman refused (I still won in local court, though).
Pat in TX
