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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:33:32 -0400, John Dacey
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:53:46 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>Can you point me to any pre-1600 records written by North
>>>>American Indian tribes?
>>>>
>>>>Curiously,
>>>>
>>>>Carl Fogel
>>>
>>>I'm surprised you're not familiar with "Hiawatha's Shopping List"
>>>which was shamelessly ripped off by Longfellow some centuries later as
>>>"The Song of Hiawatha". Regrettably, the veracity of this seminal
>>>poem by an Algonquin from the 1500s has been impeached by Republicans
>>>for containing certain anachronisms in language and font type. Decide
>>>for yourself:
>>>********************************************
>>>Hiawatha's Shopping List
>>>
>>>Honey, on your way home to me,
>>>Past the mall in Gitchigumee;
><snip>
>>>Be home by six or else - Minn'haha
>>>********************************************
>
>>Okay, any written records before 1700?
>>
>>Carl Fogel
>
>Well, the form isn't as attractive as that taken by Hiawatha's bride
>in the document referenced above, but there _is_ evidence that written
>records were kept:
>********************************************
>Invoice
>28 December 1621
>
>To: Maffachufettf Bay Colonie, Inc.
> 17 Rock Landing
> Plimouth Plantation, New Englande
>
>From: Squanto's Catering GmbH
> Cranberry Bog
> Hyannifport, Cape Codde
>
>Event/(Date): Firft Thankfgivinge (Thurfday, November 24, 1621)
>
>Turkey (50 @$5.00) $250.00
>Pumpkin (80 @ $1.00) 80.00
>Corn (9 bushels @ $4.50) 40.50
>Cranberry Sauce (20 cans @ $1.00) 20.00
>Venison (100lb @ $1.95) 195.00
>Clams
> Casino (our specialty!) 92.50
> Ala Puritani 74.50
>Nuts and berries 48.00
>TOTAL $800.50
>
>Your account is past due. Please remit.
>********************************************
>
>-------------------------------
>John Dacey
>Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
>Since 1983
>Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
>http://www.businesscycles.com
Dear John,
I fear that you have been hoodwinked by an unknown and
unscrupulous forger!
I assume that the "original" bill was in Times Old Puritan,
not some new-fangled Papist font, but I forebear to pursue
the typographical details. The content reeks of fraud.
The date is a dead giveaway. All that we know is that the
original 1621 feast took place during several days between
September 21 and November 11:
http://ca.essortment.com/whatwasthefir_rksf.htm
(Note this chilling line from the page above: "The four
surviving housewives along with their teenage daughters made
preparation for the feast. ")
In any case, November 24th, 1621, was a Wednesday:
http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/dayofweek.html
It is also notorious that the "$" was not in use at that
time. Even if the tribal caterer had wished to submit a bill
in dollars instead of pounds or wampum, he would have had to
switch to a special quill feather to create the unusual
symbol.
And no caterer would have forgotten to include the lobsters
on the bill--I have repeatedly tested this at Red Lobster,
Legal Seafood, and other establishments.
Carl Fogel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:53:46 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>Can you point me to any pre-1600 records written by North
>>>>American Indian tribes?
>>>>
>>>>Curiously,
>>>>
>>>>Carl Fogel
>>>
>>>I'm surprised you're not familiar with "Hiawatha's Shopping List"
>>>which was shamelessly ripped off by Longfellow some centuries later as
>>>"The Song of Hiawatha". Regrettably, the veracity of this seminal
>>>poem by an Algonquin from the 1500s has been impeached by Republicans
>>>for containing certain anachronisms in language and font type. Decide
>>>for yourself:
>>>********************************************
>>>Hiawatha's Shopping List
>>>
>>>Honey, on your way home to me,
>>>Past the mall in Gitchigumee;
><snip>
>>>Be home by six or else - Minn'haha
>>>********************************************
>
>>Okay, any written records before 1700?
>>
>>Carl Fogel
>
>Well, the form isn't as attractive as that taken by Hiawatha's bride
>in the document referenced above, but there _is_ evidence that written
>records were kept:
>********************************************
>Invoice
>28 December 1621
>
>To: Maffachufettf Bay Colonie, Inc.
> 17 Rock Landing
> Plimouth Plantation, New Englande
>
>From: Squanto's Catering GmbH
> Cranberry Bog
> Hyannifport, Cape Codde
>
>Event/(Date): Firft Thankfgivinge (Thurfday, November 24, 1621)
>
>Turkey (50 @$5.00) $250.00
>Pumpkin (80 @ $1.00) 80.00
>Corn (9 bushels @ $4.50) 40.50
>Cranberry Sauce (20 cans @ $1.00) 20.00
>Venison (100lb @ $1.95) 195.00
>Clams
> Casino (our specialty!) 92.50
> Ala Puritani 74.50
>Nuts and berries 48.00
>TOTAL $800.50
>
>Your account is past due. Please remit.
>********************************************
>
>-------------------------------
>John Dacey
>Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
>Since 1983
>Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
>http://www.businesscycles.com
Dear John,
I fear that you have been hoodwinked by an unknown and
unscrupulous forger!
I assume that the "original" bill was in Times Old Puritan,
not some new-fangled Papist font, but I forebear to pursue
the typographical details. The content reeks of fraud.
The date is a dead giveaway. All that we know is that the
original 1621 feast took place during several days between
September 21 and November 11:
http://ca.essortment.com/whatwasthefir_rksf.htm
(Note this chilling line from the page above: "The four
surviving housewives along with their teenage daughters made
preparation for the feast. ")
In any case, November 24th, 1621, was a Wednesday:
http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/dayofweek.html
It is also notorious that the "$" was not in use at that
time. Even if the tribal caterer had wished to submit a bill
in dollars instead of pounds or wampum, he would have had to
switch to a special quill feather to create the unusual
symbol.
And no caterer would have forgotten to include the lobsters
on the bill--I have repeatedly tested this at Red Lobster,
Legal Seafood, and other establishments.
Carl Fogel
