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wayne
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:57:23 -0700, dkahn400 wrote:
> Pete Bentley wrote:
> I'm sure the reverse is true. I believe cycling farcilities are at the
> core of the failure to meet the government's targets for cycling. They
> almost always have the opposite effect from the intended one, or at
> least the stated one. On-road cycle lanes, shared use paths,
> sub-standard off-road paths, and tortuous barely usable "cycle routes"
> make cycling less convenient, less enjoyable and less safe, thereby
> discouraging rather than encouraging it.
I'd have to agree with you. I think unless you actually are a cyclist it's
hard to appreciate that the half hearted, half baked, ill thought out so
called cycle lanes actually make cycling more dangerous as it gives
motorist's (at least some of them) the idea that we shouldn't be on the
Road.
Reminds me of a particular piece of ingenuity I have to negotiate each
morning, picture the scene, your climbing on a slowly curving right hand
bend with good visibility (no cycle lane yet) somewhere in the middle of
this very long curving road I hesitate to call bend a piece of cycle lane
appears. About a metre wide, choc full of glass, so much so that it is
tyre suicide to go through it. This fantastic piece of road design lasts
for oh about 10 yards raising you to kerb height (still middle of bend)
then stops yes, stops. You are supposed to now cross the road to get onto
a shared footpath. The lane (if you can call it that) creates a pinch
point that didn't exist, the motorist now expects you to use this glass
bed and if you don't your now in a bottleneck.
It could never have been designed by a cyclist that's all I can say.
Wayne.
> Pete Bentley wrote:
> I'm sure the reverse is true. I believe cycling farcilities are at the
> core of the failure to meet the government's targets for cycling. They
> almost always have the opposite effect from the intended one, or at
> least the stated one. On-road cycle lanes, shared use paths,
> sub-standard off-road paths, and tortuous barely usable "cycle routes"
> make cycling less convenient, less enjoyable and less safe, thereby
> discouraging rather than encouraging it.
I'd have to agree with you. I think unless you actually are a cyclist it's
hard to appreciate that the half hearted, half baked, ill thought out so
called cycle lanes actually make cycling more dangerous as it gives
motorist's (at least some of them) the idea that we shouldn't be on the
Road.
Reminds me of a particular piece of ingenuity I have to negotiate each
morning, picture the scene, your climbing on a slowly curving right hand
bend with good visibility (no cycle lane yet) somewhere in the middle of
this very long curving road I hesitate to call bend a piece of cycle lane
appears. About a metre wide, choc full of glass, so much so that it is
tyre suicide to go through it. This fantastic piece of road design lasts
for oh about 10 yards raising you to kerb height (still middle of bend)
then stops yes, stops. You are supposed to now cross the road to get onto
a shared footpath. The lane (if you can call it that) creates a pinch
point that didn't exist, the motorist now expects you to use this glass
bed and if you don't your now in a bottleneck.
It could never have been designed by a cyclist that's all I can say.
Wayne.