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Sounds like the setup of the bike was what sucked more than the bike
itself, sure its made out of cheap parts, that's why it's CHEAP. We
pretty much covered in the walmart thread that you have to take the
bike completely apart and reassemble it yourself because there's a
reason the person who assembled it is only making 5.45 an hour, if they
even had an iota of mechanical aptitude they would be making alot more
money working in a service station or something.


x1134x
 
"> >Aren't you the guy who was slamming MTB'ers on your very first thread a
>>little over a month ago? Bragging about your house and truck? Stating that
>>you have much more fun on your motorcycle than we do on our bikes?
>>Slamming
>>people here for recommending real bikes at bike shops, and stating that
>>wal-mart bikes are just as good?
>
> You've provided a microcosm of what I'm talking about. I say one thing,
> and then get told I said another. 50 posts then ensue back and forth
> about "I said this", "you said that", "you post anonymously so STFU",
> "I was joking", "It wasn't funny", "Yes it was", "you're stupid",
> *You're* stupid, "No, *YOU'RE* stupid", "I know you are but what am
> I?", "You're stupid" "Nut-uh", Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH" etc.
>
>>Bragging about your house and truck?
>
> saying you own stuff is not bragging about it. Saying your stuff is
> better that other people's stuff is bragging (just watch the ford f-150
> commercial with toby keith in it talking about the frames of trucks,
> *THAT's* bragging. (and Overkill on a frame. have fun mounting a 5th
> wheel hitch in a fully boxed frame. NTM the gas mileage carrying all
> that extra iron)
>
>>Stating that you have much more fun on your motorcycle than we do on our
>>bikes?
>
> No, Stating that I have much more fun on my motorcycle than *I* do on
> *MY* bike?
>
>>Slamming people here for recommending real bikes at bike shops and stating
>>that
>>wal-mart bikes are just as good?
>
>
> Slamming people for automated respose: "Walmart is bad everbody must go
> to LBS." Instead of "what are you actually going to *USE* the bike
> for?" "What are your views on bicycles? Is it a TOY to you or critical
> to your survival?" "Do you know what a 15mm end wrench is or are you a
> mechanical invalid?"
>
> I never said wal-mart bikes just as good as high-end bikes for TRAIL
> riding. Just for greenbelt (paved trails only) riding. Which most
> lay-people want a bike for.
>
> Ok, here we go: Nut-uh", Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH", Nut-uh",
> Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH", Nut-uh", Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH", Nut-uh",
> Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH", Nut-uh", Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH", Nut-uh",
> Uh-HUH","Nut-uh", Uh-HUH"
>
> {:)
>
> x1134x

Yeah...sarcasm doesn't come across so well in written words. I'm sure you
are probably being mistaken in a lot you are saying, or the people reading
it aren't catching your sarcasm. However the fact is that this is a mountain
bike group on Usenet. Any regular is dedicated to their sport and any hazing
(sarcastic or not) will be taken seriously most times. Hence the very long
thread on Wal-mart bikes. My first was a replica Wally world bike and all it
did for me was cause some monster legs that powered a "real" bike
wonderfully a year later.
 
"> It was a silly assumption on my part. I figured we were primarily
> talking about mountain biking here at alt.mountain-bike.
>
> Matt (uh-HUH)

I can see how the mistake can be easily made. You know...with the misleading
name of the group and all....
 
x1134x wrote:
> Sounds like the setup of the bike was what sucked more than the bike
> itself, sure its made out of cheap parts, that's why it's CHEAP. We
> pretty much covered in the walmart thread that you have to take the
> bike completely apart and reassemble it yourself because there's a
> reason the person who assembled it is only making 5.45 an hour, if they
> even had an iota of mechanical aptitude they would be making alot more
> money working in a service station or something.
>
>
> x1134x
>

I've seen a few Walmart threads over the years here. Nothing wrong with
cheap - I've got nothing against people that just want a cheap bike to
get from A to B and only on Sundays. I can understand that. But what I
don't like is dangerous cheap, and crappy cheap being passed off as
cheap but good. Take the brakes for example, you want brakes that work,
even if they have to be adjusted or reassembled. Not brakes that look
like brakes but simply don't come together firmly enough or accurately
enough. These brakes needed to be _bent_ if they were to ever contact
the rim of the wheel and not the side wall of the tyre!

_That's_ why I couldn't personally recommend a Walmart bike to ANYONE.
--
Westie
 
x1134x wrote:
> Sounds like the setup of the bike was what sucked more than the bike
> itself, sure its made out of cheap parts, that's why it's CHEAP. We
> pretty much covered in the walmart thread that you have to take the
> bike completely apart and reassemble it yourself because there's a
> reason the person who assembled it is only making 5.45 an hour, if they
> even had an iota of mechanical aptitude they would be making alot more
> money working in a service station or something.
>
>
> x1134x
>

Do you really think the majority (or even a significant segment) of the
people buying these bikes knows, or has the drive to learn how to do
that? Maybe your general public is different than mine, but most fold
wouldn't know how, or even recognize that it needed to be rebuilt.

Most people who know how to service bikes also know better than buying
one of those. If you have the skills, you can fix up a used bike and end
up with a much better, safer machine at a similar or even lower price point.

Just the other day I saw this Cora (indigenous Mexican) woman riding her
walgoose to work at Sonic. It stuck in my mind, because we had recently
had this "debate". She didn't look like an extreme mountain biker, or
even like someone who had ridden a bike much at all. The thing that made
it memorable was the way the handle bars were bent so they sloped down
from the stem, similar to an inverted horseshoe (so the luck runs out).
Now I don't know the history of the bike, but casual observation would
lead me to believe the bars had failed (bent) as a result of a 120 pound
woman riding it to her job. That seems exceptionally crappy and unsafe.

Matt
 
x1134x wrote:
> Sounds like the setup of the bike was what sucked more than the bike
> itself, sure its made out of cheap parts, that's why it's CHEAP. We
> pretty much covered in the walmart thread that you have to take the
> bike completely apart and reassemble it yourself because there's a
> reason the person who assembled it is only making 5.45 an hour, if they
> even had an iota of mechanical aptitude they would be making alot more
> money working in a service station or something.
>
>
> x1134x
>

Do you really think the majority (or even a significant segment) of the
people buying these bikes knows, or has the drive to learn how to do
that? Maybe your general public is different than mine, but most folks
wouldn't know how, or even recognize that it needed to be rebuilt.

Most people who know how to service bikes also know better than buying
one of those. If you have the skills, you can fix up a used bike and end
up with a much better, safer machine at a similar or even lower price point.

Just the other day I saw this Cora (indigenous Mexican) woman riding her
walgoose to work at Sonic. It stuck in my mind, because we had recently
had this "debate". She didn't look like an extreme mountain biker, or
even like someone who had ridden a bike much at all. The thing that made
it memorable was the way the handle bars were bent so they sloped down
from the stem, similar to an inverted horseshoe (so the luck runs out).
Now I don't know the history of the bike, but casual observation would
lead me to believe the bars had failed (bent) as a result of a 120 pound
woman riding it to her job. That seems exceptionally crappy and unsafe.

Matt
 
MattB wrote:

> Do you really think the majority (or even a significant segment) of the
> people buying these bikes knows, or has the drive to learn how to do
> that? Maybe your general public is different than mine, but most fold
> wouldn't know how, or even recognize that it needed to be rebuilt.

No I don't but the stratification fo people who DO have aptitude or
gumption to do so could save some $$ if they did. Thus I feel it's
worth asking what they want it for and could they actually put the bike
together correctly.

> Most people who know how to service bikes also know better than buying
> one of those. If you have the skills, you can fix up a used bike and end
> up with a much better, safer machine at a similar or even lower price point.

But your stuck w/ a hardtail/rigid instead of a double boinger {:)

> Just the other day I saw this Cora (indigenous Mexican) woman riding her
> walgoose to work at Sonic. It stuck in my mind, because we had recently
> had this "debate". She didn't look like an extreme mountain biker, or
> even like someone who had ridden a bike much at all. The thing that made
> it memorable was the way the handle bars were bent so they sloped down
> from the stem, similar to an inverted horseshoe (so the luck runs out).
> Now I don't know the history of the bike, but casual observation would
> lead me to believe the bars had failed (bent) as a result of a 120 pound
> woman riding it to her job. That seems exceptionally crappy and unsafe.

If they bent then yea very crappy, though it could be twisted under by
the walmart setup or purposely twisted under for god knows why. I
can't imagine a 120 lbs person bending the handlebars on *my* walgoose,
maybe her hubby took it out. . .

The 3 things I'm starting to not like about my bike are:

The rear hub doesn't seem able to cope w/ the trail riding and is
starting to wobble.

The front fork is not adjustable and is too squishy for my tastes.

The seat post does go high enough but I only have about 1.5" of tube
connecting now and that kind of bothers me.

So should I buy a new bike or new rear wheel/cassette front fork and
seat post?

If the answer is new bike then I have to wait another YEAR.

Anyone got a decent rear hub they want to part with?

x1134x
 
x1134x wrote:
> MattB wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really think the majority (or even a significant segment) of the
>>people buying these bikes knows, or has the drive to learn how to do
>>that? Maybe your general public is different than mine, but most fold
>>wouldn't know how, or even recognize that it needed to be rebuilt.
>
>
> No I don't but the stratification fo people who DO have aptitude or
> gumption to do so could save some $$ if they did. Thus I feel it's
> worth asking what they want it for and could they actually put the bike
> together correctly.
>
>
>>Most people who know how to service bikes also know better than buying
>>one of those. If you have the skills, you can fix up a used bike and end
>>up with a much better, safer machine at a similar or even lower price point.
>
>
> But your stuck w/ a hardtail/rigid instead of a double boinger {:)
>

That's not necessarily a bad thing. Hardtails are great.

I rode mine for a couple of hours last night and I throughly enjoyed it.
A (reasonable quality) hardtail in the hand is worth (significantly more
than) two FS Walgooses! (or something like that).

>
>>Just the other day I saw this Cora (indigenous Mexican) woman riding her
>>walgoose to work at Sonic. It stuck in my mind, because we had recently
>>had this "debate". She didn't look like an extreme mountain biker, or
>>even like someone who had ridden a bike much at all. The thing that made
>>it memorable was the way the handle bars were bent so they sloped down
>>from the stem, similar to an inverted horseshoe (so the luck runs out).
>>Now I don't know the history of the bike, but casual observation would
>>lead me to believe the bars had failed (bent) as a result of a 120 pound
>>woman riding it to her job. That seems exceptionally crappy and unsafe.
>
>
> If they bent then yea very crappy, though it could be twisted under by
> the walmart setup or purposely twisted under for god knows why. I
> can't imagine a 120 lbs person bending the handlebars on *my* walgoose,
> maybe her hubby took it out. . .
>
> The 3 things I'm starting to not like about my bike are:
>
> The rear hub doesn't seem able to cope w/ the trail riding and is
> starting to wobble.
>
> The front fork is not adjustable and is too squishy for my tastes.
>
> The seat post does go high enough but I only have about 1.5" of tube
> connecting now and that kind of bothers me.
>
> So should I buy a new bike or new rear wheel/cassette front fork and
> seat post?
>

Do you really think you need to ask if I think you need a new bike? Well
if you're using it for mountain biking, or even regular commuting I
think you do.

> If the answer is new bike then I have to wait another YEAR.
>

Sell a petro-toy and you'll have the cash to get a fine bike and some
left over to spend on some good accessories like a good helmet, pump,
camelback, etc.

> Anyone got a decent rear hub they want to part with?
>
> x1134x
>

It night be worth your while to look for a new wheel instead of just a
hub. A replacement hub may not be compatible with whatever's on your
bike, and chances are the rest of the wheel will be soon to follow.
Maybe you could find a wheel of a junked bike, or maybe the LBS has
something someone upgraded from that they would let go inexpensively.

Matt
 
x1134x wrote:

> If the answer is new bike then I have to wait another YEAR.
>
> Anyone got a decent rear hub they want to part with?

Go to the second hand/thrift stores, garage sales etc. Bikes that were
hot stuff ($500-$1000) 10-15 years ago are $50-$100 items these days.
Lots were never ridden after their second year, and have been garage
decorations ever since.

Shawn
 
x1134x wrote:

> But I want a double-boinger!

Family newsgroup, buddy.
 
> The seat post does go high enough but I only have about 1.5" of tube connecting now and that kind of bothers me.
If you only have 1.5" of seatpost inside your frame, then pretty soon
you are going to have 0" of seeatpost and 10" of frame up your butt.
Seriously, you should have 4" or more of seatpost in the frame, at the
very least it should reach past the bottom of the seattube/toptube
junction.
Steve.
 
"MattB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> x1134x wrote:
>> MattB wrote:
>>
>> But your stuck w/ a hardtail/rigid instead of a double boinger {:)
>>
>
> That's not necessarily a bad thing. Hardtails are great.

I really enjoy mine!! And it was bought at an LBS, after I took the POS
Walgoose back. Which occured after 1 weeks worth of riding and 4 major
cracks in the front chain rings....could have been Catastropic!!

Even then I had to replace some of the lower end parts on the bike. Things
Like wheels, and front fork...

>
> I rode mine for a couple of hours last night and I throughly enjoyed it.

As did I.

> A (reasonable quality) hardtail in the hand is worth (significantly more
> than) two FS Walgooses! (or something like that).

I agree, Based solely on my own experience with the POS bike shaped toy from
Walmart.

> Do you really think you need to ask if I think you need a new bike? Well
> if you're using it for mountain biking, or even regular commuting I think
> you do.

I gurantee you do....

>
>>
>
>
>> Anyone got a decent rear hub they want to part with?
>>
>> x1134x
>>
>
> It night be worth your while to look for a new wheel instead of just a
> hub. A replacement hub may not be compatible with whatever's on your bike,
> and chances are the rest of the wheel will be soon to follow. Maybe you
> could find a wheel of a junked bike, or maybe the LBS has something
> someone upgraded from that they would let go inexpensively.

Check out some of the online shops, like Pricepoint. They have some good
deals on wheels somtimes

Dave....
>
> Matt
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Corvus Corvax wrote:
>> JohnH wrote:
>> > > Travis is that you????
>> >
>> > I damn near posted that EXACT question yesterday!
>>
>> If he threatens to kill himself, let's send him a new bike. It's the
>> a.m-b way!
>>
>> CC
>
> Really? Did we do that? I though we sent him a ginsu set and "Seppuku
> For Dummies".
>
> /s
>
> "Kill yourself!
> Kill yourself!
> End it all and kill yourself!
> Don't rely on no one else!
> End it all and kill your self NOW!
> No good loser,
> There's nothing left for you!
> One less loser
> At everything you do!"
> - "Kill Yourself", Stormtroopers of Death
>

"we" didn't do **** but sit back and laugh. Only one of us posters had any
compassion for that poor sod, Clydsdale MTB. None of us deserve any
different...
 
"x1134x" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are a few A-holes who cal me a redneck, that I live in a trailer
> etc, and I just lump them in with the stupidest A-hole who cross posts
> here: Vandemann.
>
what's wrong with living in a trailer?
 
> what's wrong with living in a trailer?

They attract tornadoes.
 
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