Alternative to Ground Beef?

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> John Gaughan
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>I buy frozen ground turkey in a tube for $1.00 per pound.

Damn! You want a medal or sympathy? I wouldn't feed that [censored] to a

starving

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stray dog. Your admission makes you truly an embarrassment.

Sheldon, I agree with you. Ground turkey is just.......NASTY.

Especially nasty when it's a buck a pound in a tube from some mystery meat purveyer... all mystery
meat is nasty... got to grind all meat yourself otherwise you never know what/who is in it.

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm trying
to avoid beef...

Alternatives to beef? Poultry, pork, lamb, seafood, cheese, & eggs. Alternatives to ground beef?
Ground poultry, pork, or lamb. Chopped shrimp. I've avoided ground poultry because it's usually
ground *everything* -- fat, skin, sinews, etc. that I don't care for. Ground pork is readily
available. Pork sausage may work for some preparations.

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I always make my own toothpaste and chewing gum too.

I'm with you Cookie..........don't buy nuttin'; ya just can't trust

nobody,

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ther're all out to get ya.

And don't get me started on clothes..............ya just don't know what "they" are trying to
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> >I buy frozen ground turkey in a tube for $1.00 per pound.
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> Damn! You want a medal or sympathy? I wouldn't feed that [censored] to a
starving
> stray dog. Your admission makes you truly an embarrassment.

Sheldon, I agree with you. Ground turkey is just.......NASTY.

Especially nasty when it's a buck a pound in a tube from some mystery

meat

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purveyer... all mystery meat is nasty... got to grind all meat yourself otherwise you never know
what/who is in it.

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

You did not say why you are avoiding beef. There are soy products out there called soy burgers, etc.
I've tried a few and they're lousy for the most part. Maybe if you give a bit more detail...

Michael

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

Depends on the recipe, but ground turkey or ground chicken are worth considering as alternatives
to ground meat if you are making dishes such as buritos, tacos, and hamburgers. I tried both for
meatballs and meatloaf, but I did not care for the results. The texture just wasn't right.

I'm with you, Stan. I don't mind turkey sausages, but for meatloaf or meatballs, beef is the
way to go.

I found a great little market where they grind hamburger to order. Unbelievably, it's a dollar
cheaper than the supermarket, too! So I'm paying less and getting far superior quality. And they
make money off me on other things, because I come in for the ground beef and buy other things. their
sausage is great, too (breakfast and Italian).

I trust their ground meat, so I'm not worried about mad cow.

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
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Ground turkey. You'll need to adjust recipes for lower fat (though some lower-priced versions have
a fair amount of fat), and it's more expensive.

I don't much care for ground turkey. I prefer smoked or roasted slices myself. Personal taste. When
purchasing ground turkey be aware of one thing if nothing else; The fat content in ground turkey
can be almost as much as ground beef. At least this was my experience the last time I purchased
ground turkey.

Michael

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

Contrary to popular belief, most commercially ground turkey is not lower in fat than beef because
they grind up the skin (fat) along with the meat. However, if you're not going for lower fat, but
simply reacting to Mad Cow, ground turkey, chicken or pork is fine as long as it is seasoned
correctly for the dish you are making.

Jill

Yep, what Jill said. I was shocked when I bought a package of ground turkey and discovered the
fat content.

Michael

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

Depends on the recipe, but ground turkey or ground chicken are worth considering as alternatives
to ground meat if you are making dishes such as buritos, tacos, and hamburgers. I tried both for
meatballs and meatloaf, but I did not care for the results. The texture just wasn't right.

I'm with you, Stan. I don't mind turkey sausages, but for meatloaf or meatballs, beef is the
way to go.

I found a great little market where they grind hamburger to order. Unbelievably, it's a dollar
cheaper than the supermarket, too! So I'm paying less and getting far superior quality. And they
make money off me on other things, because I come in for the ground beef and buy other things.
their sausage is great, too (breakfast and Italian).

I trust their ground meat, so I'm not worried about mad cow.

When it comes to ground beef products we wait until it's on sale and then stock up. I sometimes
grind my own. I am just not into the ground turkey, especially store bought. I've never ground my
own and that might make a difference.

Michael

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: Yep, what Jill said. I was shocked when I bought a package of
ground turkey
: and discovered the fat content.
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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

Ground turkey. You'll need to adjust recipes for lower fat (though some lower-priced versions
have a fair amount of fat), and it's more expensive.

I don't much care for ground turkey. I prefer smoked or roasted slices myself. Personal taste.
When purchasing ground turkey be aware of one thing if nothing else; The fat content in ground
turkey can be almost as much as ground beef. At least this was my experience the last time I
purchased ground turkey.

Michael

I've noticed same; they use thigh meat and also include the skin in the grind for turkey. I dunno
why the OP is avoiding beef; for the few times a year I need meat ground, I'll grind it myself.
Otherwise I prefer whole cuts and not ground substitutes. Just me.

Jack Minceola

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Thanks! It is really good to be back 😉 I'm doing laundry and trying to decide what to put together
for dinner. It's nasty, cold and rainy here. I'm thinking beef stew.

Michael

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Yep, what Jill said. I was shocked when I bought a package of

ground turkey

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and discovered the fat content.

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Michael, I am still so tickled to see your name on my screen!

I hope you're feeling well and are healing faster than ever!

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Thanks! It is really good to be back 😉 I'm doing laundry and trying to decide what to put
together for dinner. It's nasty, cold and rainy here. I'm thinking beef stew.

Michael

What Cyndi said! Hmmm, I may just make some beef stew... It's chilly and rainy here, too.

Jill

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: Dunno if you can get it over there, but I like ground lamb
(suppose you
: could always mince it yourself). Works well in burgers, should
be used in
: Shepherd's pie (as opposed to Cottage pie), and makes the best
moussaka
: ever. Also good for making Indian dishes like shami kebab, or a
kofta (sp?)
: curry.
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: Jo
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It's tough to get that around here but is possible with a lot of begging and pleading!

I'll have to try making Shepherd's Pie with lamb. Growing up, mom always used beef but I bet lamb
would be awesome! I've heard that traditionally lamb was the original ingredient. This was discussed
a while back on either this or on the a.c.c. news group. I always enjoy reading/hearing about the
different regional/cultural differences in recipes.

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I don't think I've bought ground beef in over ten years, choosing ground turkey instead. I like the
7% fat, as the zero fat is dry and flavorless. I use it in sauce, meatballs, meatloaf anything you'd
use ground beef in. It has such a better flavor.

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I don't think I've bought ground beef in over ten years, choosing ground turkey instead. I like the
7% fat, as the zero fat is dry and flavorless. I use it in sauce, meatballs, meatloaf anything
you'd use ground beef in. It has such a better flavor.

I like ground turkey, too, and used it first about twenty years ago for meat loaf, with the same
herbs, sage for example, that go with roasted turkey.

Now, usually, I grind my own turkey from thighs and use it for my version of sopa de albondigas,
"turkey ball soup," we call it.

David

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Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

I have been using a combo of ground turkey and turkey sausage for pasta sauce and chili. Otherwise,
ground turkey for burgers, or we do the Boca Vegan Original burgers.

-L.

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j.j. said:

Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
trying to avoid beef...

Contrary to popular belief, most commercially ground turkey is not lower in fat than beef because
they grind up the skin (fat) along with the meat. However, if you're not going for lower fat, but
simply reacting to Mad Cow, ground turkey, chicken or pork is fine as long as it is seasoned
correctly for the dish you are making.

Jill

A number of local markets here sell both "ground turkey" which is what Jill's describing and "extra
lean ground turkey" which is just ground white meat. If you compare them you can see quite a color
difference.

gloria p in Colorado

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> John Gaughan
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>I buy frozen ground turkey in a tube for $1.00 per pound.

Damn! You want a medal or sympathy? I wouldn't feed that [censored] to a

starving

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stray dog. Your admission makes you truly an embarrassment.

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Sheldon, I agree with you. Ground turkey is just.......NASTY.

I buy ground *white meat only* turkey or grind my own from a whole boneless breast of turkey. You
can't tell it from hamburger when it's grilled. It has no gamey taste, no chopped up beaks and feet,
etc. Good stuff.

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Thanks! It is really good to be back 😉 I'm doing laundry and trying to decide what to put
together for dinner. It's nasty, cold and rainy here. I'm thinking beef stew.

Michael

What Cyndi said! Hmmm, I may just make some beef stew... It's chilly and rainy here, too.

Jill

Mine is still simmering. SO will not be strolling in until after 10pm so I'm waiting. Smells
damned good too.

Michael

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>>>Anyone have a good suggestion for a ground beef alternative that you've tried and liked? I'm
>>>trying to avoid beef...
>>>
>>
>>Ground turkey.
>
>I don't much care for ground turkey. I prefer smoked or roasted slices myself. Personal taste.
>When purchasing ground turkey be aware of one thing if nothing else; The fat content in ground
>turkey can be almost as much as ground beef. At least this was my experience the last time I
>purchased ground turkey.
>
>Michael

I've noticed same; they use thigh meat and also include the skin in the grind for turkey. I dunno
why the OP is avoiding beef; for the few times a year I need meat ground, I'll grind it myself.
Otherwise I prefer whole cuts and not ground substitutes. Just me.

Jack Minceola

PS Nice to see your mug on the postings, Michael.

Yes, it's good to see Michael is Backkk!

I grind meat about 4-5 times a year, to stock the freezer with ground beef and pork. Some days I
devote to making sausage, a whole nother procedure. I don't grind turkey, is tastes terrible, but
I often buy skinless-boneless chicken breasts when they're on sale, usually $1.99/lb and grind
that with seasonings and veggies into chicken sausage meat... excellent for stuffing pasta or just
making small meatballs to place in soups... also chicken croquettes are scrumptous. Naturally I
also grind fresh fish, season, form into pattys, and freeze... fortunately I still have my Lung
Guyland seafood connections.

I really don't see the big inconvenience in grinding ones own meats.

This is a bit off topic for this thread. I have a couple of friends that buy beef in bulk. They'll
buy a side of beef and keep it in the deep freeze. They have all kinds of different cuts. Have
either you or Jack done this? I'm sure it's less expensive than buying from the supermarket or
butcher. It would take us forever to go through that much beef. About how long can you keep beef
like this in the freezer without burn? I would certainly do a lot more of my own grinding if I
could buy in bulk without wasting a lot of it.

Michael

Tightly wrapped in butcher paper, meat will last for years in a deep freezer without burn. Five or 6
years, at least (but you'll want to use it up faster than that just in case the package has a little
hole in it)

Sausage doesn't seem to keep as well. Hamburger does better. Roasts might well keep forever; I
don't know yet.

Best regards, Bob