An Article About Carbon Bikes



Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
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That girl is gonna have her therapist on speed dial when she grows up. Is it just me that finds this disgusting? Black T-Shirt... Nazi-style? Maybe if she wore a John Lennon T-Shirt or something it would be a bit funny.
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This thread is leveling up my US Slang Skills, ehmmm I ment Skilz...
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jpr95 said:
Blah, blah, blah...I expected this self-righteous bluster.  The reality is that I've seen an Indiana State Police information officer on live TV admit that BAC affects different people differently, to the extent that she had even seen people who blew 0.6% (not 0.06%--0.6%--fatal for most people) and they were still functioning well, as well as had seen people UNDER the limit who couldn't even come close to passing a roadside sobriety test. The reality is that at my weight and metabolism (pretty darn good for a 40 year old--from the cycling and a physically demanding job) I can guarantee my reaction times and driving skill are better with 3 pints of good beer under my belt than most septuagenarians who are stone cold sober.  It's not because I'm special, it's because there are many like me out there.  Heck, I see a bunch of them when I stop at a local taproom on my way home from work on Thursdays a few times a year for $2.50 pints. The reality is that BAC is just a convenient measurement tool for the local law enforcement to make some money, like speeding.  It's not anywhere near universally or consistently enforced, and many exceed it (like speeding) with no problems.  The ones that make the news for killing someone are almost always at some multiple of the BAC limit, starting with 2.  Again, like all medications, alcohol in the blood affects different people in different ways. The reality is that you've also ignored all the other distraction factors that people allow to creep into their driving on a daily basis that are every bit as dangerous as the average person being at a BAC of 0.08%, some of which I mentioned in my previous post.  Never mind that driver training and tests in this country are little more than how to aim a car and how to parallel park it--I don't think I've heard of a standard beginner's driver's ed course that offered any behind-the-wheel training of recovery from loss of control or accident avoidance at speed.
People do react differently to alcohol. Tolerance increases the more you drink over a long period of time (a few years) but that doesn't make banning dumb Fcuks that drink and drive over the limit a bad thing to do. There needs to be a law in place and .08 to .04 is reasonable IMHO. After many years of drinking bordering on abuse, I feel all fine and dandy after three pints (the real 20oz imperial variety not the pee-wee lightweight 16oz) of the typical 6% IPA. I hardly feel like I've had a drink but I realize that I am not as sharp as I was prior to the beers. So I respect the guidelines and ignore the fact that I don't feel buzz at all. Arguing that "action x" is just as dangerous therefore we shouldn't bother with blood alcohol tests is dumb. If you're dumb enough to drive drunk you should forfeit your car and your license. If your job depends on you having a license, tough **** - shouldn't have been drinking. I'd lose my job without a license and it'd make a possible Citizenship application a little more difficult - consequences, they're a *****. ;) Advanced driving courses are available and are recommended by the examiner during the driving test. When I moved here from England I had to take the test in California and was dismayed how easy the test was. Maybe it was because the examiner realized I'd driven a few hundred thousand miles and looked like I had a clue. He mentioned the advanced courses but I took up SCCA autocross instead. ;)
 
Quote by Swami:
"There needs to be a law in place and .08 to .04 is reasonable IMHO."

Point Zero FOUR?!?!?!

You have a bright future in Iran. They're always looking for another Supreme Leader. If nothing else, you can head up the Basiji.


"After many years of drinking bordering on abuse..."

It's become painfully obvious you killed off the few functioning brain cells you may have once had.
 
Yes 0.04. People on this side of The Pond display almost complete inability to drive even when sober. There should be a 10 year period where everyone is forced to drive a Suzuki Capucino with all saftey equipment and seatbelts removed. A period of driving around what is essentially a 2/3 size early 90s Miata with no seatbelts will force most to be more careful and kill those that are completely inept. Slowing down the car, speeding up the culling of that gene pool.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
JPR95, I KNEW that was going to be HomeBoy Nyte Sytes before I even clicked!

JH, tell your wife that we are ALL proud of her!

Oh yeah...I rode my carbon plastic won't-make-it-through-the-magnetic-pulse bike this afternoon. And tomorrow morning it gets stress tested in a death-defying, high speed, high-risk event with spills and chills and thrills galore no person with...what was that...oh yeah..."sensibilities and class" would enter.

But, I ain't gots no damned class! And people that make no damned sense can have that sensibility ****.

Now hold my beer and watch this! Ima gonna have me some fun before I shuffle off to Buffalo. Let the preppies, yuppies, idjuts in sensible shoes and doofuses stand on the sidelines and cheer my skinny ass on!
Originally Posted by swampy1970

Yes 0.04.

People on this side of The Pond display almost complete inability to drive even when sober.

There should be a 10 year period where everyone is forced to drive a Suzuki Capucino with all saftey equipment and seatbelts removed. A period of driving around what is essentially a 2/3 size early 90s Miata with no seatbelts will force most to be more careful and kill those that are completely inept.

Slowing down the car, speeding up the culling of that gene pool.
LOL, this is great, I full heartedly agree with Swampy1970
 
Quote by Swami:
"Yes 0.04."

No wonder your breath smells. That mouthwash pushed you over your sharia limit.

"People on this side of The Pond display almost complete inability to drive even when sober."

News flash: "People" everywhere drive like ****tards. Eyetalians drive on the sidewalks and don't even get me started on what passes for driving in merry olde. They can't even get the correct side of the road done and WTH is it with all those crashfests they call "roundabouts"? And the French? Holy ****! Wrapping 2CV's around trees is both a national pass time AND a high art form. On the plus side, it eliminates 2CV's from the planet. The Churmans do show some promise, I'll grant you that much. They are disciplined drivers because their engineering is already causing their repair bills to be through the roof. Aussies all think Mad Max is a driving school 'how to' film. Finns? They have more anti-freeze in the driver's seat than the radiator. Russians? Hah! YouTube the dash cam footage and get back with me.

"There should be a 10 year period where everyone is forced to drive a Suzuki Capucino with all saftey equipment and seatbelts removed. A period of driving around what is essentially a 2/3 size early 90s Miata with no seatbelts will force most to be more careful and kill those that are completely inept."

NOTHING could be more gay than a Miata. Nothing. The very gayness will give most drivers teh AIDS. Besides, America already went through that K-car **** with a resounding, "Keep those POS!".

"Slowing down the car, speeding up the culling of that gene pool."

So...you substitute alcohol with dinky cars? Brilliant! Darwin will be around for your remaining two brain cells any day now. Admit it. You pickled your brain with booze for decades and now feel guilty and what thought little process you can still muster resembles a stage 4 Alzheimer's survivor.
 
Mouthwash? I don't have breath that smells like sewage because I clean my teeth rather than rinsing with moonshine/benzene or whatever else you have out in the woods, Bob. There was a good write up of the effects of drugs and alcohol on safety within the oil industry. Only a few decades ago it wasn't uncommon to have guys doing speed or lines of coke while others were taking swigs from booze filled hip flasks. "Accidents" were common, so much so it was almost an accepted thing. Then they banned the hard drugs, leaving booze and weed. Accidents went down, deaths went down. Then they banned alcohol and weed - accidents and incidents almost stopped. If I blow anything other than a 0.00 BAC at work during a test, I'm fcuked. Someone will be delivering my personal items in a box to my house the following day. I accept that. I embrace the fact that limits are so low as it helps keep people I work with safe. It's all about personal responsibility. If you're not responsible enough to operate a car in a safe manner, get the fcuk off the road, or go and down a few bottles of Jack and play redneck hot potato (catch with a live hand grenade) ;)
 
Pills are fast becoming the biggest issue in the US. Of course stupidity will always be #1 since there is no cure.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
News flash: "People" everywhere drive like ****tards. Eyetalians drive on the sidewalks and don't even get me started on what passes for driving in merry olde. They can't even get the correct side of the road done and WTH is it with all those crashfests they call "roundabouts"? And the French? Holy ****! Wrapping 2CV's around trees is both a national pass time AND a high art form. On the plus side, it eliminates 2CV's from the planet. The Churmans do show some promise, I'll grant you that much. They are disciplined drivers because their engineering is already causing their repair bills to be through the roof. Aussies all think Mad Max is a driving school 'how to' film. Finns? They have more anti-freeze in the driver's seat than the radiator. Russians? Hah! YouTube the dash cam footage and get back with me.

If you only knew...
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Speaking of roundabouts, I don't get these things, we have two in this town and they are indeed demolition derby circles, yet the city says they're safer and are building more. Maybe in Europe roundabouts are fine because they've been there for a century but here in America where a roundabout to an American is like eating dog meat...we don't know what it is.
 
swampy1970 said:
There's a "Vitamin P" pill that's a great cure for stupid - potassium cyanide. ;)
It is sad that more individuals do not seek this type of relief. Better living thru science.
 
Originally Posted by Froze
Speaking of roundabouts, I don't get these things, we have two in this town and they are indeed demolition derby circles, yet the city says they're safer and are building more. Maybe in Europe roundabouts are fine because they've been there for a century but here in America where a roundabout to an American is like eating dog meat...we don't know what it is.
When you know how to enter and exit them safety they're actually really good. Much better and more efficient that a bunch of stop signs.

We have a couple in town and one of them is small enough to get the tires screaming at 7,500rpm in first gear in the S2000 if I really want to loon around it. That gives another 1,500rpm of sayonara Mr fat American pig car when exiting said roundabout.
 
I actually LIKE roundabouts. They are much more efficient, in part because many drivers can't seem to grasp the simple stop sign etiquette of, "first come, first serve; ties go to the right". At a busy stop sign, it only takes one moron trying to be polite to screw up the order and turn it into a slow mess.

We've got several roundabouts in the area, and more are planned. The problem they're having is that a few semis have taken them too fast and parked themselves on their side.

Maybe if police watched roundabouts, they'd catch more drunks.
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Roundabouts can be scary on a bike, on a car they are not that scary, unless you are speeding with a car with a high centre of gravity.

But on a bike you are coming to the roundabout on the right of the road, then you enter the roundabout passing right next to the other entrances, so it's needed to keep an eye for both the cars in the left circling around and the cars on the right approaching the roundabout.
 
Originally Posted by swampy1970

When you know how to enter and exit them safety they're actually really good. Much better and more efficient that a bunch of stop signs.

We have a couple in town and one of them is small enough to get the tires screaming at 7,500rpm in first gear in the S2000 if I really want to loon around it. That gives another 1,500rpm of sayonara Mr fat American pig car when exiting said roundabout.
LOL, LOL!!!! I love the sound of tires screaming in the dead of the night! I can see myself hitting one of those in my 79 Z28 and drifting around it...as long as some cop doesn't hear me!! At least the cop cars in this town are snails, but the radio is quite a bit faster.
 
Quote by Swami:
"Mouthwash?"

I knew you did not what it was.

"There was a good write up of the effects of drugs and alcohol on safety within the oil industry. Only a few decades ago it wasn't uncommon to have guys doing speed or lines of coke while others were taking swigs from booze filled hip flasks. "Accidents" were common, so much so it was almost an accepted thing. Then they banned the hard drugs, leaving booze and weed. Accidents went down, deaths went down. Then they banned alcohol and weed - accidents and incidents almost stopped."

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha1!!!!ONE!!!!

"Accidents almost stopped!!!! LMFO! I'm in the heart of the Marcellus/Utica Shale plays and I can tell you with authority that accidents happen every damned day! "Almost stopped"!!! Wait 'til I talk to the locals about this brilliant statement!!!!

"If I blow anything other than a 0.00 BAC at work during a test, I'm fcuked. Someone will be delivering my personal items in a box to my house the following day. I accept that. I embrace the fact that limits are so low as it helps keep people I work with safe."

Thank God you haven't gone all Hiroshima on Commiefornia!

"It's all about personal responsibility. If you're not responsible enough to operate a car in a safe manner, get the fcuk off the road, or go and down a few bottles of Jack and play redneck hot potato (catch with a live hand grenade) ;)"

I'm accident free and enjoying low premiums.

I have no need for any more socialist nanny state ayatollahs, thank you very much. But feel free to keep issuing your pronouncements. The Koran agrees with your position.
 
Quote by froze:
"Speaking of roundabouts, I don't get these things, we have two in this town and they are indeed demolition derby circles, yet the city says they're safer and are building more."

Same in my area. Tow truck companies love them. The local immature kiddies enjoy bouncing their cars off the curbs and bending those $500-a-pop double-deuces into pretzels.

The Yuropeeons are much better at them than us'n 'Muricans...oh wait...



...and you hardly ever hear of a cyclist killed in one...






Quote by Swami:
"We have a couple in town and one of them is small enough to get the tires screaming at 7,500rpm in first gear in the S2000 if I really want to loon around it. That gives another 1,500rpm of sayonara Mr fat American pig car when exiting said roundabout."

Well, now we know why you don't need booze to drive like a moron. How many Wreckless Op citations have you paid for endangering the public and using public roads as your slalom course? Brilliant! Perhaps you better go back to drinking heavily and finish the job you started.

You sound just like our local mullet-wearing, Camaro-driving billhillys...except for that gay S2000 thing.
 
"I'm accident free and enjoying low premiums".

I got a comeback for this one.
 

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