An Article About Carbon Bikes



Originally Posted by swampy1970
It's a convertible, Volnix ;)


Why did I knew that you pull up a F1 car about that...?
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You don't really think that they are the same kind of design yeah?
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Convertible cars weigh more then their fixed roof equivalents. They also handle worst. It's a fact.
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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130530135124AAiSG1Y

"The reason it's slower is because the convertible weighs more than the coupe, usually about 200-300 pounds more. You see the roof on a unibody car is part of it's structure, when it's removed the chassis tends flex alot, this isn't desirable. So the engineers will add bracing to the chassis to stiffen it up some in an effort to offset the flex comes the top being removed from the car. This adds weight. And weight makes the car slower. "
 
Originally Posted by swampy1970

Lotus cars are engineered by Lotus. The Elise only picked up the Toyota engine because the Rover K-Series engine from the first Elise had never been certified for emissions in the US and Lotus didn't want to deal with that. Lotus already, as a race team, worked with Yamaha, who flowed the cylinder heads on the VVT engine for Toyota and had info on what improvements could be made for the high performance variants of the car. Lotus had asked Honda to work with them, but just like with Gordon Murray and the original McLaren F1, Honda told them to feck off.
Actually Lotus cars are NOT engineered by the England Lotus company since they sold out in 1986 to GM due to bankruptcy and then again in 1993 to Bugatti and again in 1996 to Proton, and are currently engineered by Proton of Malaysia and are handbuilt in the UK.
 
Originally Posted by Volnix


The MX-5 is a convertible... So it's actually -heavier- then a fixed roof car. As are the convertible Lambos, Ferraris etc. It should also handle -worst- then a fixed roof car due to the load paths.

I always thought of it as a convertible for young minded people who are afraid of sharp edges.
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It looks like a pile of plasticine.
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Haven't checked the physics of the frame, it doesn't look "flippy" like these small SUV's and tall compact cars, but it doesn't look like a Porsche either.

Maybe a bit like a Caterham with bodywork?
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I love those cars, I would love to own one but alas they're out of my price range.
 
??? Take a '75 Pinto and slap some motorcycle fenders on it. Instant Rotus 7 minus the pesky rotting tube frame.

Or go the mullet route and drop your stroked 350 into one and hoop it up...a couple of faux canards...maybe a spoiler...I'm thinking LED's...Weld Wheels...you're in!

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Originally Posted by Froze
I love those cars, I would love to own one but alas they're out of my price range.

They are quite cheap as far as I know... They should be even cheaper over there. Last time I checked a C200 Mercedes was 20000 euro over there. It's more then 35000 euro here and they are German too!
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Lot's of speed for the money too. But it's a novelty car more or less. If you do the assembly your self it's a bit cheaper too. But you need an engine hook etc...
 
Originally Posted by Volnix


They are quite cheap as far as I know... They should be even cheaper over there. Last time I checked a C200 Mercedes was 20000 euro over there. It's more then 35000 euro here and they are German too!
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Lot's of speed for the money too. But it's a novelty car more or less. If you do the assembly your self it's a bit cheaper too. But you need an engine hook etc...
Completely assembled cars are available but a 620R will set a person back about $75,000 starting price, the least expensive one is the 280 and that one is starting at about $35,000. Not bad prices for a car that will out handle just about any car on the road if not any car on the road, but I would have to sell a classic car to get one and I'm not willing to part with any of them. As far as building a car I simply don't have the time to to that.
 
Originally Posted by Froze
Completely assembled cars are available but a 620R will set a person back about $75,000 starting price, the least expensive one is the 280 and that one is starting at about $35,000. Not bad prices for a car that will out handle just about any car on the road if not any car on the road, but I would have to sell a classic car to get one and I'm not willing to part with any of them. As far as building a car I simply don't have the time to to that.

Where did you check that??? A new Super - 7 costs around 25,000 EUR... (30,000+ USD?)

http://uk.caterhamcars.com/cars/supersport-0
 
You guys need to come here this weekend. We had Shades of the Past rod run last weekend and have another big rod run this weekend. Thousand of classic and redneck cars to be seen, bought or crashed. Drinking, fights and girls flashing. I personally won't be anywhere near it, not that I hold anything against a topless female unless it would be myself.
 
Originally Posted by Volnix


Where did you check that??? A new Super - 7 costs around 25,000 EUR... (30,000+ USD?)

http://uk.caterhamcars.com/cars/supersport-0
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-280
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-620-r
And those prices don't include options, thus they are starting prices.
 
Originally Posted by jhuskey
You guys need to come here this weekend. We had Shades of the Past rod run last weekend and have another big rod run this weekend. Thousand of classic and redneck cars to be seen, bought or crashed. Drinking, fights and girls flashing. I personally won't be anywhere near it, not that I hold anything against a topless female unless it would be myself.
You're a topless female? you ride your bike like that too? We want video.
 
Froze said:
You're a topless female?  you ride your bike like that too?  We want video.
If thats what you want to envision then so be it. Just don't let me know.
 
Originally Posted by Froze
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-280
http://us.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-620-r
And those prices don't include options, thus they are starting prices.

Hmmm, they got different model names over there, the websites don't match...

Anyway, they don't cost 75.000 USD. Unless you are after a very expensive model, which maybe is a bad idea with Caterham, since they are just a shed at the docks.
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Which reminds me that I just tried to make a warranty claim for a pair of cleats, Shimano ofcourse, which got shredded after 3 rides and of course the new bike shop with their new shinny bikes inside refused the claim. Didn't even bother calling the vendor.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
You had me at, "Topless Female".
It gets pretty wild sometimes or at least it use to .I don't participate and haven't in years.
 
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"I don't participate and haven't in years."

You finally got that breast reduction?

Ever been out to the Lake of the Ozarks? What a party those rednecks/hilljacks/drugaholics throw. Good times!

Of course, once you've been to Sturgis most of what passes for partying pales in comparison.

Hey...slightly off topic, but I actually lived through as ride on a carbon frame yesterday! And I talked to a 76-year old rider at one of the LBS and he had just done 30 miles on a carbon frame! Wow! TWO uses of the word 'carbon' in a thread with 'carbon' in the title! That's got to be a record of some sort!
 
I hate to tell you but carbon is real also, it just doesn't rhyme with steel.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
Quote by JH:
"I don't participate and haven't in years."

You finally got that breast reduction?

Ever been out to the Lake of the Ozarks? What a party those rednecks/hilljacks/drugaholics throw. Good times!

Of course, once you've been to Sturgis most of what passes for partying pales in comparison.

Hey...slightly off topic, but I actually lived through as ride on a carbon frame yesterday! And I talked to a 76-year old rider at one of the LBS and he had just done 30 miles on a carbon frame! Wow! TWO uses of the word 'carbon' in a thread with 'carbon' in the title! That's got to be a record of some sort!
I count four.
 
Thanks for posting. Appreciated and something that I haven't really thought about for my carbon QRoo Lucero..
 
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My bad! I failed math so I became an engineer!
 

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