An ice axe in July!!

Discussion in 'General Fitness' started by Phil Cook, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
    carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
    nowadays, especially in Liverpool.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm
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    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
     
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  2. Gordon Burns

    Gordon Burns Guest

    I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
    wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
    rather than protect me!

    "Phil Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:p[email protected]
    >I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
    > carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
    > nowadays, especially in Liverpool.
    >
    > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm
    > --
    > Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
     
  3. mick

    mick Guest

  4. Richard Webb

    Richard Webb Guest

    On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:08:57 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
    >wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
    >rather than protect me!



    Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

    Hope the MCoS and BMC have their rebuttal squads at the ready.
    Meanwhile one of mine is still in my car boot - antiforget strategy.
    ......
    Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
    frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

    Richard Webb
     
  5. On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:50:10 +0000, Phil Cook
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
    >carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
    >nowadays, especially in Liverpool.
    >
    >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm


    I saw the family of television and I'm astonished by the dignity and
    composure of the mother.

    "I've got to forgive them, my family and I still stand by what we
    believe - forgiveness."
     
  6. mick

    mick Guest

    On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 +0000, Richard Webb burbled:

    > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:08:57 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter,
    >>I wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
    >>rather than protect me!

    >
    >
    > Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be Done
    > about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and the
    > mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them in
    > Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.
    >

    <snip>


    The daft thing is, if you have an ordinary keyring with 2 or 3 keys on it
    and any credit-card/phone-card type thing then you are already walking
    around with a couple of potentially nasty weapons. Perhaps the lunatic
    inhabitants of that remote corner will ban these too.


    --
    Mick
    (no M$ software on here... :) )
    Web: http://www.nascom.info
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  7. mikek

    mikek Guest

    "Richard Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:08:57 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
    >>wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
    >>rather than protect me!

    >
    >
    > Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    > Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    > the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    > in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.
    >
    > Hope the MCoS and BMC have their rebuttal squads at the ready.
    > Meanwhile one of mine is still in my car boot - antiforget strategy.
    > .....
    > Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
    > frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.
    >
    > Richard Webb


    Far too pricey to be brought as weapons. Besides, I'd imagine you get one
    swing of the axe and then its stuck. Apart from Leon Trotsky and this
    recent incident I don't know of any other ice axe victims.
     
  8. Phil Cook wrote:

    > I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
    > carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
    > nowadays, especially in Liverpool.
    >
    > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm


    Christ, I think you've started a 400 post debate about whether racially
    motivated attacks with Ice Axes are bad because of the woory that
    attackers will lose existing skills with flick knives..... and what if
    you ice axe breaks when you don't have more traditional assault weapons
    to hand...
     
  9. W. D. Grey

    W. D. Grey Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, Richard Webb
    <[email protected]> writes
    >Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    >Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    >the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    >in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.


    Fortunately there has been no knee-jerk reaction to the Liverpool
    incident as there was with the Dunblane shooting. There were literally
    thousands of geunine club licenced pistol/.rifle shooters who had to
    give up their weapons. This did not stop the villains getting their
    hands on even more dangerous firearms.
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk
     
  10. Richard Webb

    Richard Webb Guest


    >> .....
    >> Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
    >> frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.
    >>
    >> Richard Webb

    >
    >Far too pricey to be brought as weapons. Besides, I'd imagine you get one
    >swing of the axe and then its stuck. Apart from Leon Trotsky and this
    >recent incident I don't know of any other ice axe victims.
    >



    Pedants Corner: What made his ears burn was an ice pick... Used to
    chop the stuff up for drinks etc.

    Richard Webb
     
  11. Richard Webb

    Richard Webb Guest


    >Christ, I think you've started a 400 post debate about whether racially
    >motivated attacks with Ice Axes are bad because of the woory that
    >attackers will lose existing skills with flick knives..... and what if
    >you ice axe breaks when you don't have more traditional assault weapons
    >to hand...



    I think for braking, I'll stick by my trusty axe. Allthough I have
    used antlers, ski poles, trekking poles and lumps of wood before.

    Memo to self: Stop falling off hills!

    Richard Webb
     
  12. Gordon Burns

    Gordon Burns Guest

    Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
    one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
    and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
    first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.

    "Richard Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >>Christ, I think you've started a 400 post debate about whether racially
    >>motivated attacks with Ice Axes are bad because of the woory that
    >>attackers will lose existing skills with flick knives..... and what if
    >>you ice axe breaks when you don't have more traditional assault weapons
    >>to hand...

    >
    >
    > I think for braking, I'll stick by my trusty axe. Allthough I have
    > used antlers, ski poles, trekking poles and lumps of wood before.
    >
    > Memo to self: Stop falling off hills!
    >
    > Richard Webb
    >
     
  13. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    Gordon Burns wrote:

    >Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
    >one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
    >and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    >the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
    >first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.


    The one shown on the BBC page looks like the actual one since it has
    an evidence tag and a scale in the picture.
    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41073000/jpg/_41073464_iceaxe203_pa.jpg
    It looks like one of the bargain basement Camp or Jolly axes to me
    metal shaft with a rubber grip. It's hard to tell the make from the
    photo as the flash has shone back and obliterated the maker's name,
    and yes I'll bet you a million to one they didn't buy it.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
     
  14. AndyP

    AndyP Guest

    "Phil Cook" <[email protected]> wrote

    > The one shown on the BBC page looks like the actual one since it has
    > an evidence tag and a scale in the picture.
    >

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41073000/jpg/_41073464_iceaxe203_pa.jpg
    > It looks like one of the bargain basement Camp or Jolly axes to me
    > metal shaft with a rubber grip. It's hard to tell the make from the
    > photo as the flash has shone back and obliterated the maker's name,
    > and yes I'll bet you a million to one they didn't buy it.


    I think it's a Grivel Nepal Plus like the one in my cupboard (at least I
    think it's still in my cupboard).
     
  15. > Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    > Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    > the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    > in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.


    Wow ... old on a minute about the bottom right corner and us southerners!
    Not being a climber as such, although I do own an iceaxe for winter
    mountains, but apparently there can be some excellent 'ice climbing' done on
    the white chalk cliffs around the Dover coastline. Reliable informed by the
    staff in Pegler's Mountaineering shop in Arundel.

    Maybe no ice ....................... but lots of 'sensible' use for an
    iceaxe.

    --
    sandy saunders @ www.thewalkzone.co.uk
    email: saunders.sandy at ntlworld.com

    'Mountains or Mole Hills ... summiting still
    brings the same excitement'
     
  16. The Reid

    The Reid Guest

    Following up to Richard Webb

    >and
    >the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    >in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.


    You can use one (or rather two) in London, right now, within 50
    feet of the Thames, on ice.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email [email protected] this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- [email protected] all, it's a spamtrap
     
  17. Paul Rooney

    Paul Rooney Guest

    On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email protected] (Richard Webb)
    wrote:

    >Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
    >frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.


    Yes.

    The c*nts live down the road from me.

    They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
    Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.

    His mother comes across as one superb woman.
    --

    Paul Rooney
     
  18. Paul Rooney wrote:
    > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email protected] (Richard Webb)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
    > >frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

    >
    > Yes.
    >
    > The c*nts live down the road from me.
    >
    > They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
    > Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.


    Well over twenty years. Amen to that.

    I am pleased to note they're young lads. I hope a *lot* of the inmates
    take a fancy to them.
     
  19. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    Paul Rooney <[email protected]> wrote
    >On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email protected] (Richard Webb)
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
    >>frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

    >
    >Yes.
    >
    >The c*nts live down the road from me.
    >
    >They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
    >Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.
    >
    >His mother comes across as one superb woman.


    She does, but I can unders6tand why his girl friend can not forgive
    them.
    They were a pair of evil swines, apart from the murder.
    --
    Gordon Harris
     
  20. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    Gordon Burns <[email protected]> wrote
    >Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
    >one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
    >and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    >the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
    >first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.
    >

    He was a career burglar, specialising in stores according to the news.
    --
    Gordon Harris
     
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