An ice axe in July!!

Discussion in 'General Fitness' started by Phil Cook, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. Fran

    Fran Guest

    [email protected] said...
    > > Dont forget Anthony Walker.

    >
    > Yes.
    >
    > His mother comes across as one superb woman.
    >

    She certainly does. I doubt very much that I'd be as calm and forgiving
    were it one of my children. Were I wearing a hat I'd remove it in her
    honour. Truly Gee Walker is a wonderful lady.
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  2. Fran

    Fran Guest

    [email protected] said...
    > I am pleased to note they're young lads. I hope a *lot* of the inmates
    > take a fancy to them.
    >

    Oh yes. Definitely. I don't approve of a lot of things, but those two
    deserve everything they get and I will back to the hilt those who mete
    it out.
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  3. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Guest

    On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:03:00 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    >the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
    >first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.


    The pair of them were off to burgle hotels in North Wales.
     
  4. Alan Dicey

    Alan Dicey Guest

    Gordon Burns wrote:
    > Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
    > one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
    > and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    > the real stuff...


    Nitpick. My Stubai Aschenbrenner, bought thirty-odd years ago, and
    looking like one of the ones lower down on this page

    http://nirayama.com/~suwabe/Pickel/Stubai/S3.htm

    i.e this one

    http://nirayama.com/~suwabe/Pickel/Stubai/stb_a8a1.jpg

    is definitely intended for the real stuff, and has been so used and done
    the job . . .
     
  5. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    sandy saunders wrote:

    >> Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    >> Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    >> the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    >> in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

    >
    >Wow ... old on a minute about the bottom right corner and us southerners!
    >Not being a climber as such, although I do own an iceaxe for winter
    >mountains, but apparently there can be some excellent 'ice climbing' done on
    >the white chalk cliffs around the Dover coastline. Reliable informed by the
    >staff in Pegler's Mountaineering shop in Arundel.


    And demonstrated in that barmy BBC ad where Garry Rhodes climbed up to
    tell a picnicker (camper?) not to cut the basil but to tear it.
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  6. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    [email protected] wrote:

    >Paul Rooney wrote:
    >> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email protected] (Richard Webb)
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow.


    >> They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
    >> Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.

    >
    >Well over twenty years. Amen to that.


    I read in one of the rags that the judge had taken pity on them and
    given them shorter sentences because of their low intelligence! Mutter
    mutter foam foam! What is this county coming to.
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  7. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    Alan Dicey wrote:

    >Gordon Burns wrote:
    >> Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
    >> one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
    >> and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    >> the real stuff...

    >
    >Nitpick. My Stubai Aschenbrenner, bought thirty-odd years ago, and
    >looking like one of the ones lower down on this page
    >
    >http://nirayama.com/~suwabe/Pickel/Stubai/S3.htm
    >
    >i.e this one
    >
    >http://nirayama.com/~suwabe/Pickel/Stubai/stb_a8a1.jpg
    >
    >is definitely intended for the real stuff, and has been so used and done
    >the job . . .


    Of course they can be used on the white stuff. It's just that being
    made of wood the shafts can't be type tested and thus they dont get a
    CE mark proving they are fit for purpose.

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  8. mick

    mick Guest

    On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:05:25 +0000, Phil Cook burbled:

    > danny_dee[email protected] wrote:
    >
    >>Paul Rooney wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email protected] (Richard Webb)
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow.

    >
    >>> They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
    >>> Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.

    >>
    >>Well over twenty years. Amen to that.

    >
    > I read in one of the rags that the judge had taken pity on them and given
    > them shorter sentences because of their low intelligence! Mutter mutter
    > foam foam! What is this county coming to.



    Oh - I hope not! They were obviously intelligent enough to be able to sell
    the stuff that they nick so they should be able to realise that killing
    people is wrong. I vote for just 5 years - at their own expense - they can
    carry on repaying it on 10% APR credit terms for the rest of their lives...
    ;-)

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  9. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    mick wrote:

    >On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:05:25 +0000, Phil Cook burbled:


    >>>Well over twenty years. Amen to that.

    >>
    >> I read in one of the rags that the judge had taken pity on them and given
    >> them shorter sentences because of their low intelligence! Mutter mutter
    >> foam foam! What is this county coming to.

    >
    >Oh - I hope not! They were obviously intelligent enough to be able to sell
    >the stuff that they nick so they should be able to realise that killing
    >people is wrong.


    It might have been a slant put on the reporting by The Metro. The
    Grauniad (sic) has things rather differently.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763,1656038,00.html?gusrc=rss
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  10. mick

    mick Guest

  11. Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the wonderful
    person Gordon <[email protected]> said
    >Gordon Burns <[email protected]> wrote
    >>Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
    >>one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
    >>and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
    >>the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
    >>first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.
    >>

    >He was a career burglar, specialising in stores according to the news.


    What sort of country are we running when we have the concept of 'career
    burglar'??

    Were I in charge, we'd have 'burglar', 'repeat offender with one hand',
    and 'corpse'. Much cheaper all round.

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  12. Roger

    Roger Guest

    The message <[email protected]>
    from Phil Cook <[email protected]> contains these words:

    > >Well over twenty years. Amen to that.


    > I read in one of the rags that the judge had taken pity on them and
    > given them shorter sentences because of their low intelligence! Mutter
    > mutter foam foam! What is this county coming to.


    I thought that the Judge was obliged to take their youth into account.
    Strangely that aspect of the law hasn't followed the voting age
    downwards.

    Anyway AFAIK at least with life sentences the minimum term means
    precisely that and they won't be even considered for parole until that
    has expired.

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  13. W. D. Grey

    W. D. Grey Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, Phil Cook
    <[email protected]> writes
    >sandy saunders wrote:
    >
    >>> Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    >>> Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    >>> the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    >>> in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

    >>
    >>Wow ... old on a minute about the bottom right corner and us southerners!
    >>Not being a climber as such, although I do own an iceaxe for winter
    >>mountains, but apparently there can be some excellent 'ice climbing' done on
    >>the white chalk cliffs around the Dover coastline. Reliable informed by the
    >>staff in Pegler's Mountaineering shop in Arundel.

    >
    >And demonstrated in that barmy BBC ad where Garry Rhodes climbed up to
    >tell a picnicker (camper?) not to cut the basil but to tear it.


    Are you sure Phil? I thought he told him NOT to prick his sausages.

    I watch these educational adverts with enthusiasm.:)
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  14. > And demonstrated in that barmy BBC ad where Garry Rhodes climbed up to
    > tell a picnicker (camper?) not to cut the basil but to tear it.


    Didn't see it but sounds rather 'different'.

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  15. Phil Cook

    Phil Cook Guest

    W. D. Grey wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, Phil Cook
    ><[email protected]> writes
    >>sandy saunders wrote:


    >>>... apparently there can be some excellent 'ice climbing' done on
    >>>the white chalk cliffs around the Dover coastline.

    >>
    >>And demonstrated in that barmy BBC ad where Garry Rhodes climbed up to
    >>tell a picnicker (camper?) not to cut the basil but to tear it.

    >
    >Are you sure Phil? I thought he told him NOT to prick his sausages.


    Yeah now you mention it...

    Deffo sausages. What would a camper be doing with basil anyway? So who
    was it telling somebody not to cut the basil?
    >
    >I watch these educational adverts with enthusiasm.:)


    I just fast forward through all of them now I have a PVR :)

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  16. Paul Rooney

    Paul Rooney Guest

    On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:09:16 +0000, Phil Cook
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >What would a camper be doing with basil anyway?


    The two lads I met in Wester Ross took a whole range of herbs on their
    backpacking trips into the wild, plus a smoker for the fish. And a few
    litres of whisky! They reckoned they had to have luxuries to make the
    midges bearable.
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  17. Smithy

    Smithy Guest

    "Richard Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:08:57 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
    >>wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
    >>rather than protect me!

    >
    >
    > Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    > Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    > the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    > in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.
    >


    Now some other groups might get an inkling of how decent law-abiding
    shooters feel...
     
  18. druidh

    druidh Guest

    > "Richard Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]ueyonder.co.uk...
    >
    >>On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:08:57 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
    >>>wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
    >>>rather than protect me!

    >>
    >>
    >>Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
    >>Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
    >>the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
    >>in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.
    >>

    >

    and they'd be right??



    druidh
     
  19. AJH

    AJH Guest

    On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:16:23 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >Were I in charge, we'd have 'burglar', 'repeat offender with one hand',
    >and 'corpse'. Much cheaper all round.


    How un PC can one get? Perhaps we have the punishment system we can
    afford? I think I have a social conscience but having lost some close
    ones recently I do feel that society could well do without some who
    remain.

    I just happened across this in my flit through today's postings, a
    couple of thoughts crossed my mind, these two stole from hotels and
    were planning a jaunt to Wales, perhaps they had been there before in
    Winter? The other was that two of my climbing group, both good rock
    hoppers, paid a visit to Aviemore in 1970, they returned with some
    swag which they couldn't have afforded to pay for, my first sight of a
    down duvet jacket, I never ventured out with them again.

    Oh and wet fishes for the recovery wee thing, I hope you haven't been
    driven off again.

    AJH
     
  20. Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the
    wonderful person AJH <[email protected]> said
    >On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:16:23 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Were I in charge, we'd have 'burglar', 'repeat offender with one hand',
    >>and 'corpse'. Much cheaper all round.

    >
    >How un PC can one get?


    Most PC-ness is covert code for 'claptrap', IMO.

    > Perhaps we have the punishment system we can
    >afford?


    We have the number in prison we can afford, maybe. Those two jerks are
    gong to cost us 40 years at about 100k a year .. £4m. Just to preserve 2
    'career burglars' for posterity, or in case 'they didn't do it after all
    gov'. I can think of lots better uses for £4m.

    > I think I have a social conscience but having lost some close
    >ones recently I do feel that society could well do without some who
    >remain.


    Indeed.

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