your no. 1 I'm sure is what ticks a lot of people off.. I actually couldn't care less though.. As long as you are right.. if you are wrong.. or you're stating an opinion as fact.. look out.. Lol.. I tend to respond in kind..
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ok... so i read some of his response in the...
Your 2010/current power profile metrics... thread... ok, ok... kind of a straight up douche there.. maybe he should change his puedonyme to crabbyOldGuy.. then people will kind of know what they are getting.. lol...
I think he's trolling though.. after reading this... "50 miles without food is not too bad. 62 without food is a bit much." LMMFAO...
made me think of this video below.. has to be OldGuy as a youth or maybe his grandson.. lol..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMCkuqL9IcM
This certainly isn't a problem restricted to cycling forums, but it is one of the most popular features of bike forums. A lot of people are so absolutely sure that laws of physics don't apply to them and their bikes. They must be so sure because all too often the explanations by some rest on nothing. After almost 370 years, Newtonian mechanics is well vetted. Reading some posts it's easy to conclude that our schools are failing at teaching science.doctorSpoc said:
I also frequent a couple of golf forums... you should see the discussions of swing mechanics or impact physics; these are tame by comparison. There are always these psuedo science types that know just enough of the right words and phrases without really knowing the underlying meanings or relationships to pass themselves off as experts until the they get caught and discredited... then they disappear or turn up under a different name. I suspect the same here.
A fly in the ointment here...
A.O.G. is harmless. The issue, IMO, lies within those who get ticked off by him, and is a thousand times more sinister than A.O.G. could ever be. The main culprit is that individual's ego, aka sense of self. The need to be 'right'; that little voice inside your head that says, "I'm going to show this guy who's the stronger man" - this causes people to argue incessantly and become thoroughly annoyed with A.O.G. He lays the bait, and some people take it hook, line, and sinker. He can be condescending at times, as are many regulars on this forum - so what? Anonomous internet people don't exist in reality anyway - don't take him so seriously...Why he has his own thread is amazing.
A.O.G. is harmless. The issue, IMO, lies within those who get ticked off by him, and is a thousand times more sinister than A.O.G. could ever be. The main culprit is that individual's ego, aka sense of self. The need to be 'right'; that little voice inside your head that says, "I'm going to show this guy who's the stronger man" - this causes people to argue incessantly and become thoroughly annoyed with A.O.G. He lays the bait, and some people take it hook, line, and sinker. He can be condescending at times, as are many regulars on this forum - so what? Anonomous internet people don't exist in reality anyway - don't take him so seriously...Why he has his own thread is amazing.
..yeah, whatever man.. lol... OK.. how about the notion that Lactic Acid was the main culprit, responsible for muscle fatigue? seems a certain nobel laureate came up with that ****... i guess No exercise scientist worthy of the name ever believed that either?
..like rats from a burning ship.
My view is that AOG is a prime example that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Theories about training have moved on over the years, but there is no doubt that training using these outdated theories can still yield results. Give it another 30 years and who know how much we 'know' now will have been disproven by research.
this is basically what I've said.. if you have no restrictions on your time at all, much of his advice actually makes sense.. the only thing is that pros and single, retirees are about the only people that are in that boat, so much of his advices it not applicable to most people on this forum. and in addition, he does actually lie about some stuff as well.. some of the stuff he says is just not humanly possible.. no one can do 150% FTP 1min ever other minute for an hr.. c'mon.. his other problems is that he tries to justify his advice with science and he just doesn't have a good grasp of science, math etc.. he should just give that a rest and talk about HIS experience...
Exactly... not motivated and commited enough... to neglect my two young kids and my wife that I love and WANT to spend time with.. quit my job and get a new more flexible one.. not sure if you're being sarcastic but, I am definitely not motivated in any way, shape or form to do more than I'm doing at this point in my life (43 yrs old).. and I don't think I'm alone.. funny I was having a conversation with a team mate on way back from a race about how well divorce correlated with cycling performance.. correlates very well based on the riders we competed with..
Doc,
You obviously lack the motivation Old Man has. If you can post this much from work I'm sure there's a way that you can train that much whilst at work too. You also need to ride to and from work and find a route that's headwind/uphill both ways but be mindful that you'll need to find a random source of water every ten miles or so.
Just remember - you can ride at 150% FTP yet still be passed by random blokes on bikes wearing tennis shoes using toe clips and straps.
You obviously lack the motivation Old Man has. If you can post this much from work I'm sure there's a way that you can train that much whilst at work too. You also need to ride to and from work and find a route that's headwind/uphill both ways but be mindful that you'll need to find a random source of water every ten miles or so.
Just remember - you can ride at 150% FTP yet still be passed by random blokes on bikes wearing tennis shoes using toe clips and straps.
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Originally Posted by doctorSpoc .
..yeah, whatever man.. lol... OK.. how about the notion that Lactic Acid was the main culprit, responsible for muscle fatigue? seems a certain nobel laureate came up with that ****... i guess No exercise scientist worthy of the name ever believed that either?
..like rats from a burning ship.
Yeah, point taken, if you go back long enough you can certainly find some now-outdated theories, which have undoubtedly had significant impact upon how non-scientists think the body works. So, I suppose I should have qualified my comments by saying "no modern exercise scientist..." (with "modern" = "those I have encountered in my adult life").
BTW, if anybody wants to understand the impact A.V. Hill had upon the field, and why he thought what he did, I have attempted to provide some insight in this historical article:
http://wustl.academia.edu/AndrewRCoggan/Papers/544120/Coggan_AR._Metabolic_systems_substrate_utilization_1910-2010_._In_Tipton_CM_ed._History_of_Exercise_Physiology._Champaign_IL_Human_Kinetics_in_press_
Originally Posted by doctorSpoc .
..yeah, whatever man.. lol... OK.. how about the notion that Lactic Acid was the main culprit, responsible for muscle fatigue? seems a certain nobel laureate came up with that ****... i guess No exercise scientist worthy of the name ever believed that either?
..like rats from a burning ship.
Yeah, point taken, if you go back long enough you can certainly find some now-outdated theories, which have undoubtedly had significant impact upon how non-scientists think the body works. So, I suppose I should have qualified my comments by saying "no modern exercise scientist..." (with "modern" = "those I have encountered in my adult life").
BTW, if anybody wants to understand the impact A.V. Hill had upon the field, and why he thought what he did, I have attempted to provide some insight in this historical article:
http://wustl.academia.edu/AndrewRCoggan/Papers/544120/Coggan_AR._Metabolic_systems_substrate_utilization_1910-2010_._In_Tipton_CM_ed._History_of_Exercise_Physiology._Champaign_IL_Human_Kinetics_in_press_
yeah, I tried replacing my chair at work with a spin bike, but I kept on getting some weird stares by my co-workers and people kept coming off the elevator and saying.. what the hell is that damn smell?! so I figured it was a bad idea and removed it..Originally Posted by swampy1970 .
Doc,
You obviously lack the motivation Old Man has. If you can post this much from work I'm sure there's a way that you can train that much whilst at work too. You also need to ride to and from work and find a route that's headwind/uphill both ways but be mindful that you'll need to find a random source of water every ten miles or so.
Just remember - you can ride at 150% FTP yet still be passed by random blokes on bikes wearing tennis shoes using toe clips and straps.
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