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  1. Scroll down to paragraphs 7-10 for some fighting words. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    SMH: Moore peddles cheap city bike service:Sunanda Creagh Urban Affairs Reporter, November 15, 2007
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/moore-peddles-cheap-city-bike-service/2007/11/14/1194766770313.html

    Poll: Bike hire for Sydney?
    http://www.smh.com.au/polls/national/form.html

    You are stuck at Broadway and you need to be at a meeting at Circular Quay in 10 minutes. You hire a bike, hop on and drop it off at your destination.

    The Lord Mayor of the City of Sydney, Clover Moore, has flagged plans for a rental system under which low-cost bicycles can be hired from a "bike station" and returned to a station in another part of the city.

    A recent survey commissioned by the City of Sydney showed that more than 80 per cent of inner city people supported such a scheme, and 71 per cent said an hourly fee of $3 or more was reasonable.

    Cr Moore said the scheme was popular in Paris, where it was introduced this year. "It's a most inspirational program," she said. "I hope that as soon as possible it will be operational in Sydney. I believe bike traffic jumped to 75 per cent in Lyon after the system was introduced there."

    In Paris, 20,600 bikes are provided by the street furniture firm JCDecaux and there are 1451 hire stations.

    Cr Moore said the council would finalise its bike plan, which includes construction of new separated bike lanes in King Street, Castlereagh Street and possibly Druitt Street, before introducing a public hire scheme to Sydney.

    The cycling activist Fiona Campbell said the state's bike infrastructure lagged "any other in Australia or the developed world. There are towns in the Swiss Alps that have better facilities than us."

    Under the conditions of the consent for the Cross City Tunnel, the Roads and Traffic Authority was supposed to provide bike lanes on William and Park streets and a connection from Park Street to Pyrmont Bridge. It was also required to investigate an east-west cycle route around Liverpool Street.

    "The latter they investigated and dismissed," Ms Campbell said. "The William and Park street lanes they constructed - although not to RTA standards - and then removed part of it."

    She blamed what she sees as an anti-bike, pro-car attitude within the RTA, headed by ministers with no interest in cycling.

    An RTA spokesman said the Government had built "more than 3900 kilometres of cycleway in NSW for the use of cyclists and pedestrians and an average of 233 kilometres of cycling facilities built each year since 1999".

    "The Government has provided more than $291 million towards bicycle programs since then, with a further $15 million of work to be completed this financial year," he said.

    Bicycle NSW, working with the Department of Transport, manages bike lockers at some train stations and ferry wharves.

  2. On Nov 15, 11:16 am, cfsmtb <cfsmtb.302...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

    Scroll down to paragraphs 7-10 for some fighting words. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    SMH: Moore peddles cheap city bike service:Sunanda Creagh Urban Affairs
    Reporter, November 15, 2007http://tinyurl.com/2e438q

    Poll: Bike hire for Sydney?http://www.smh.com.au/polls/national/form.html

    You are stuck at Broadway and you need to be at a meeting at Circular
    Quay in 10 minutes. You hire a bike, hop on and drop it off at your
    destination.

    The Lord Mayor of the City of Sydney, Clover Moore, has flagged plans
    for a rental system under which low-cost bicycles can be hired from a
    "bike station" and returned to a station in another part of the city.

    A recent survey commissioned by the City of Sydney showed that more
    than 80 per cent of inner city people supported such a scheme, and 71
    per cent said an hourly fee of $3 or more was reasonable.

    Cr Moore said the scheme was popular in Paris, where it was introduced
    this year. "It's a most inspirational program," she said. "I hope that
    as soon as possible it will be operational in Sydney. I believe bike
    traffic jumped to 75 per cent in Lyon after the system was introduced
    there."

    In Paris, 20,600 bikes are provided by the street furniture firm
    JCDecaux and there are 1451 hire stations.

    Cr Moore said the council would finalise its bike plan, which includes
    construction of new separated bike lanes in King Street, Castlereagh
    Street and possibly Druitt Street, before introducing a public hire
    scheme to Sydney.

    The cycling activist Fiona Campbell said the state's bike
    infrastructure lagged "any other in Australia or the developed world.
    There are towns in the Swiss Alps that have better facilities than us."

    Under the conditions of the consent for the Cross City Tunnel, the
    Roads and Traffic Authority was supposed to provide bike lanes on
    William and Park streets and a connection from Park Street to Pyrmont
    Bridge. It was also required to investigate an east-west cycle route
    around Liverpool Street.

    "The latter they investigated and dismissed," Ms Campbell said. "The
    William and Park street lanes they constructed - although not to RTA
    standards - and then removed part of it."

    She blamed what she sees as an anti-bike, pro-car attitude within the
    RTA, headed by ministers with no interest in cycling.

    An RTA spokesman said the Government had built "more than 3900
    kilometres of cycleway in NSW for the use of cyclists and pedestrians
    and an average of 233 kilometres of cycling facilities built each year
    since 1999".

    "The Government has provided more than $291 million towards bicycle
    programs since then, with a further $15 million of work to be completed
    this financial year," he said.

    Bicycle NSW, working with the Department of Transport, manages bike
    lockers at some train stations and ferry wharves.

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    cfsmtb

    Jeebus how would you go around Sydernee letting any muppet with $2
    ride your bike? With those drivers and those roads?

  3. Donga said:

    Jeebus how would you go around Sydernee letting any muppet with $2
    ride your bike? With those drivers and those roads?

    Really basic bikes can be bought - in bulk - for under $50 each out of
    China or India. The type of bike that's ridden by half a billion
    Chinese every day.

    If one muppet in 30 kills a bike, you've collected $60 in rental, so
    you're ahead. I doubt you'd lose one bike for every 30 rentals.

    You also get a pile of spare parts to fix any minor breakages (or,
    more cost effectively, put tangled mess of broken bits in a container
    and send to East Timor for a charitable tax dodge).

    Sure, you wouldn't be making much of a profit, but I don't think
    anybody is expecting to make a profit out of the rental receipts.
    Profit from renting out ad space on a fleet of mobile billboards is a
    different matter.

    Damage to the muppet is not the bike owners concern, so long as the
    bike is fit for purpose and did not cause the accident.

    tim

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