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Pete Biggs
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Peter Clinch wrote:
> Pete Biggs wrote:
>
>> The point wasn't about their use for cycling or for particularly poor outdoor conditions in
>> general - just that are very good for what most people use them for and things that have been
>> around that long must be more than about fashion.
>
> And my counter-point is that they're *adequate* rather than good, but because it's a default
> buying decision people don't think about it much and buy the default. Because people buy it it's
> the default, and because it's the default people buy it. And so on. "Everyone uses it so it must
> be good so I'll get it too" is entirely normal, and indeed very understandable thinking.
Defaults don't happen by random. Products become default because they are available to, and
genuinely good for, the average user. I concede that they may not always be the very best. I just
happen to think MTBs are the best bikes for what we've been discussing *despite* them being the
default choice.
Products naturally evolve and new defaults eventually emerge. The new developments take a while to
catch-on (need to gain publicity and lower in cost, etc). There may well /now/ be better fabrics but
for a long time, denim has been more than adequate for what it was used for.
By the way, "twill" denim is more comfortable than the traditional stiff sort and this is popular
now for many ordinary jeans.
~PB
> Pete Biggs wrote:
>
>> The point wasn't about their use for cycling or for particularly poor outdoor conditions in
>> general - just that are very good for what most people use them for and things that have been
>> around that long must be more than about fashion.
>
> And my counter-point is that they're *adequate* rather than good, but because it's a default
> buying decision people don't think about it much and buy the default. Because people buy it it's
> the default, and because it's the default people buy it. And so on. "Everyone uses it so it must
> be good so I'll get it too" is entirely normal, and indeed very understandable thinking.
Defaults don't happen by random. Products become default because they are available to, and
genuinely good for, the average user. I concede that they may not always be the very best. I just
happen to think MTBs are the best bikes for what we've been discussing *despite* them being the
default choice.
Products naturally evolve and new defaults eventually emerge. The new developments take a while to
catch-on (need to gain publicity and lower in cost, etc). There may well /now/ be better fabrics but
for a long time, denim has been more than adequate for what it was used for.
By the way, "twill" denim is more comfortable than the traditional stiff sort and this is popular
now for many ordinary jeans.
~PB