Another US rider from SPIKE team caught using testosterone

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  1. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    You're a joke! Your screen name is a joke. You speak of things you can not prove, therefore, you're simply a speculator, and also a mere spectator I might add as it is OBVIOUS you've never attained an elite level in athletics, or anything else for that matter.

    Unfortunately, you have been jaded by something very sinister such that you find it impossible to press the "stop" button. It keeps playing over and over in your head and you continue ranting and raving. I have sympathy for you because your world must be very cold.

    Furthermore, even you, YOU, of all people would be presumed innocent in a court of law if all the people you have slandered were to slap a lawsuit on your obviously broke behind. They would have to prove the claim against YOU, you would not be required to prove your innocence. Oops, my bad, I'm presuming you live in the US. From your ranting, I have my doubts. Nevertheless, I guess you are satisfied in playing judge and jury in the court of public opinion, which means nothing in the end.

    Anyway, I'll leave you with this to illustrate my honesty - I use my real name on this board - why don't you???? Why are you hiding behind a screen name??? Food for thought...

    I will not be responding further to you so you have my permission to post the last word as I know your ego needs it. Peace...
     


  2. Flyer's.Finale!

    Flyer's.Finale! New Member

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    Stephen Alfred is as clean as the NFL, alumni included. And it is NOT libel if it is true. And it is very true, with plenty of evidence on file.

    From testosterone and cortisone based steroids to asthma inhalers to amphetmaines, they all use drugs to do a job.

    No hope w/o the dope. From the University of Washington to USC---steroids rock football, ubiquitous from high school to to the NFL. (never forget lying)

    Tony would know that if he were for real.

    Good luck in the Cat 5s. You'll need it if you lose any more weight. And learn the difference between slander and denial if you want to toss out accusations. Flubbed catches do not count in this league. FREE FLOYD! FREE TYLER!
     
  3. FixedGearFever

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    Good job, Tony! Step aside while some faceless name caller goes on a further rant!

    For what it's worth, I am interviewing the Spike Team Director in about 2 hours. The interview will be on FixedGearFever. I plan on discussing Alfred and other riders doping.

    -jsp
     
  4. FixedGearFever

    FixedGearFever New Member

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    So you want to free people who are pretty well implicated in doping? I am confused.

    -jsp
     
  5. Flyer's.Finale!

    Flyer's.Finale! New Member

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    They won't ever be honest with you re; testosterone, hGH, Deca Durabolin, insulin feeds, corticosteroids, Salbutamol, Viagra, amphetamines or their serial marriages, breakups, hook-ups, etc... or Stephen's USA Cycling long-time feud.

    I suggest you write up a 'feel-good story draft' and read it to them. They will approve that and you can sign off. That's what most media requires.

    And you knew that. Your so-called interview is wholly perfunctory.
     
  6. FixedGearFever

    FixedGearFever New Member

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    I don't think many people you are accusing of using these drugs could afford them, to be perfectly honest.

    The interview will be in a podcast format. I don't need approval from anybody to post stuff on FGF... nor do I need to hide behind a screen name.

    -jsp
     
  7. Flyer's.Finale!

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    The drugs are free my friend. Use them or wave bye bye.

    You people are sooooooooo naive. The doping products are MORE relevant than than wheels, frame sets, tyres, handlebar tape, aerobars, air fare, motel.

    Somehow all this stuff get provided. Drugs too!

    Nobody is 'accusing Team Spike' of breathing oxygen---yet they do that, unless you are writing that 'Only Stephen breathed the air'
     
  8. Billsworld

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    In order to make real claims about a rider such as Blatchford, you must either be selling him stuff, using with him, or work for a lab and saw a test of his test that would bring his status into question. Blatchford on his best days is a 10.5-10.7 rider ?This time is fast, but hardly outside the capabilities of natural human performance. In order to say that he is on something there has to be some evidence other than rumor or the fact that one of his teamates got caught. You have brought nothing to the table other that sladerous remarks based on rumor................Oh wait you have educated us that some elite athletes us drugs. My one and only question that went unaswered is what is the "Flyer Time Standard" that makes arider automaticly a user. 11.0, 10.9.?????
     
  9. Flyer's.Finale!

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    Would you be SURPRISED to learn that a 1984 Olympic medalist FAILED to win Gold due to a poor reaction to a blood transfusion???????

    Sometimes doping RETARDS performance times. Ivan Basso had one bad day in the 2005 Giro----they fixed it quick.

    In 1991 the entire PDM team overdosed on EPO, ran high fevers and had to abandon the TDF. Drug overdoses = poor performances

    In 2004 Tyler Hamilton abandoned the Vuelta with a stomach ailment. (aka: drug busted) Again, a blood transfusion gone wrong.

    Slow times are not proof of a clean liver enzyme screen.

    You are slowly learning Billsworld. You still have a way to go.
     
  10. Billsworld

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    I dont think that Scott or I, or most other people have the belief that there are no drugs in the sport. I come from a powerlifting backgroud as well as bodybuilding. I competed lifetime clean and am clean. I for example squated 600 at 198 and 450 ~ Raw. (back then raw was only in the gym) In my gym those were very average drug free numbers.Even now if I train at certain gyms people ask clever round about questions that imply drug use, because I can squat 315 x10(again very average) and have more muscle than they do. The real problem is that they are pussies that are too F***ng lazy to climb under a squat bar. I also have a very close friend that could lift with the elites and was lifetime clean (800 squat at 181lbs)Everyone thought he was on . bla bla bla ... My main point is that it is wrong to slander Blatchford or any other individual , without direct evidence that he is a user. We are all aware that drugs are rampant in cycling and most other sports, its just innocent untill proven guilty as far as I am concerned . Anything else just pisses all over someone that is trying to do it clean.
     
  11. Flyer's.Finale!

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    Bill:

    It is more wrong to presume these athletes are clean. Because is just ain't so at the very top end levels. Q: Why don't we just do a testosterone test, not a T/E ratio game---but the $200 exogenious test? A: Because everyone would flunk! T-Mobile and the USA cycling team will throw policy and procedures at us fools---but they won't ever stop the unbiquitous doping.

    It is not slander. It is not libel. It is common sense and logic.

    Assuming Lance Armstrong is clean, whilst his employees Floyd, Tyler, Frankie Roberto, Benoit, Manuel, Pavel get busted for steroid and blood doping requires suspension of logic. Theater of the absurd.

    Stephen Alfred is now offically busted for the second time. Once at age 30, once again at age 39---that we know of.

    Most USA doping violations are kept secret. Cindy Olivari in 1984, and the track team blood transfsions administered at the Ramada Inn in Carson

    You keep believing Bill. Nike built a lucrative business upon that miracle of commercial faith.
     
  12. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    You know what is a good analogy for your ranting? Because I am a black guy and this type of whining has relevance, you sound like some black guy who has never made anything of his life always crying racism when something occurs that doesn't go his way. Racism does exist and is a fact of life, however, that doesn't mean you have get on your soapbox everyday and scream "That's racism" in order for people to believe you or to change anything. What happens is, those people that you're trying to reach, start tuning you out. On another angle, just because a black guy has got ahead in life doesn't mean his success was the result of some quota system, as whiners of reverse discrimination like to rant and rave about.

    If there's a problem - do something active to fix it instead of whining about it. Therein lies the restoration of your credibility... Food for thought.
     
  13. Flyer's.Finale!

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    Yes Tony, by all means----let us focus our attention on the black drug cheats!!!!!

    Stephen Alfred
    Barry Bonds (Nike swoosh endorsed)
    Gary Sheffield
    Ben Johnson
    Carl Lewis
    Dana Stubblefield
    Shawne Merriman
    Michael Irvin
    Rod Martin
    Marion Jones (Nike swoosh)
    Tim Montgomery (Nike swoosh)
    Justin Gatlin (Nike swoosh)
    CJ Hunter (divorced Marion & Nike)
    Tori Edwards (Nike)
    Regina Jacobs (Nike)
    Kelli White (Nike)
    LaTasha Edwards (Nike)
    Michelle Collins (Nike)

    Many black athletes have secured endorsements by CHEATING. The entire NFL is a safe house for drug cheats. Denial is the protective coating.

    Consider this an ACTIVE disclosure step!!! Doper food = toxic colossal dogs
     
  14. Billsworld

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    Flyer, I got into this sport because I am a fast twitcher whose body began to say no mas to heavy lifting. I stayed away from this BS when in the gym and I will never be at that level to worry about having to beat Massie or Blatch. My goals are mostly against the clock and for masters Nats. the guys I look up to in the sport are Larry Nolan, Al Whaley,Steve Hill , Gord Singleton and a handfull of others .. Just dont piss on them and we have a truce:)
     
  15. Flyer's.Finale!

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    Sadly--of the names you mention--they are close friends with many a confirmed drug cheat. The synthetic testosterone is everywhere--all aroud you. (Discovery Team, Floyd, Lance, Tyler, Stephen Alfred, David Fuentes et al...)

    Birds of a feather? We never need to know.

    Our modern dope control system allows for massive doping:
    testosterone
    Clomid
    hCG
    hGH
    EPO
    blood spinners
    insulin
    amphetamines
    Salbutamol
    Viagra
    Prozac

    are all allowed in Olympic sport today. You can only advance so far clean.
     
  16. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    totally obsessed...sad...
     
  17. Flyer's.Finale!

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    More sad than a Black doper apologist?

    I think not.

    Neither does Paul Tagliabue's old lap dog---Gene Upshaw ($3 MIILION a year)
     
  18. tonyzackery

    tonyzackery Well-Known Member

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    Quite frankly, it is only obvious to me that you never had elite athletic ability so you are desperate to try and destroy ALL those that do, regardless if they're clean or not. Therein lies your sick obsession...

    I believe if you redirected your efforts, you possibly could effect some actual change, but ranting in this forum like you're doing is analogous to a rat on a running wheel...peace
     
  19. Flyer's.Finale!

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    Tony (if that is your silly name). Nobody buys your BS here. You have yet to type one correct post.

    The NFL is a doper paradise.
     
  20. velomanct

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    Geeez, I've been away from the cycling scene for half a year now. The whole sport is crumbling with all the doping. That's what turned me off about it. I dropped VelonNews because all I ever saw on the cover was doping scandels.

    I kind of understand why my old teammate got sick of the sport and left last year.

    Is there no pride in competing clean anymore? What's the point in winning if you're on anything?

    I can't wait to get back out on the roads and train and break my old records.
     
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