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Goodridge Steel Braided tubing kit as seen here???

http://tinyurl.com/23xs8

From what I understand all the parts are reusable unlike standard magura
ferrules/olives, so you never have to have extra parts ever again should
you change/shorten your hydraulic line!!!

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and carbon!
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It doesn't look like it includes the fittings necessary to make the
crossover line for the Magura rim brake. It's the crossover line that
most needs to be the steel braided line. The plastic crossover line
gets messed up (kinked or broken) too quickly from muni use.

My brake line is some after market line put together by a local DH bike
shop. I don't know what brand the line is. It's stronger and more kink
resistant that the stock plastic Magura line, but I don't think it's as
flexible as the steel braided Magura line. It works well enough for me.
The bike shop puts it all together for me for about $35 which includes
the fittings. It doesn't use the olive style fittings.


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zod wrote:
> *Yea, it doesn't come with the crossover and it's fittings, I'd have
> to buy that separate........ It could get costly to change to steel
> braided... :)
>
> Oh John another question. Does the steel braided cross-over from
> Magura use their typical ferrules or does it have re-usable parts??? *

The Magura steel braided line does not use the olive style connectors
that are used on the plastic line. They're reusable fittings.

Here's a PDF from Magura that shows how to install the braided hose and
includes pictures of the fittings:
'How to cut the braided hose' (http://tinyurl.com/366tt)
The PDF is linked on the 'Magura home page'
(http://www.magura.de/english/frameset/default.htm). Go to their
Downloads section.

Something to note about the Magura braided line. The braided crossover
connects differently to the slave cylinders than the plastic crossover.
The Magura braided crossover has a M8 connector at one end and a M6
connector at the other end. The plastic line has M6 connectors at both
ends. What this means is that the Magura braided line connects to
different holes in the slave cylinders than the plastic line. You
cannot use a plastic main hose and a Magura braided crossover hose
together because there is only one M8 hole on the slave cylinders and
both the main line and the crossover line will have an M8 fitting. The
PDF document should make this somewhat clear if you look carefully at
the picture of the rim brake.

However, you can use an aftermarket braided line and get M6 fittings put
on both ends of the crossover line. You'll just not be using original
Magura branded parts.


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Oh, and if you want to get the Magura braided line give 'Trialsin USA'
(http://www.trialsin.com/) a call. He's got a supply of all Magura
small parts and will be able to sell you the parts and extra hose
necessary for you to make your own longer crossover to fit over the 3"
Gazz. He's got good prices too. The Magura braided line ain't cheap,
especially once you factor in the extra cost for the fittings and hose
to make your own longer crossover.

Darren Bedford may also be another source for the Magura braided line
kit. I think he's carrying it now.

'Speedgoat' (http://www.speedgoat.com/) would be another likely source.


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the Goodridge housing has a nice plasticy coating on the outside.i think
this is nicer that the bare medal Magura line.if i ever have to buy new
braidind line,i think i would go with the Goodridge.


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Thanks for the info John, I work at a bike shop so I'll do all my
purchases there.....the beauty of the employee discount! ;)

I agree with you Jagur, I think Goodridge cabling appears superior to
Magura's. Here is what I think I will do. I'm gonna order the Goodridge
Carbon *REAR* Hose Kit which is 1650mm's, the front brake kit is only
900mm's and only about $2 cheaper. Might as well spend a few bucks for
the extra spare length. The kit will come with two M6's so then all I
have to do is buy an extra M6 and M8 and I can make my own cross-over
out of the Goodridge tubing! AND I'll have plenty of leftover cable for
those unforseen emergencies.


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zod wrote:
> *Thanks for the info John, I work at a bike shop so I'll do all my
> purchases there.....the beauty of the employee discount! ;)
> *

Cool, looks like you're set.

One other weird thing about the Magura braided hose is that one end of
each hose (the main hose and the crossover) has a factory installed
fitting that does not look like it's removable. The other end of each
hose is bare and ready to be cut and then fitted with a user installable
fitting that should be removable if you later want to shorten the
hose.

I actually have a Magura braided hose kit with an extra length of hose
that will be used for the crossover. I got the Magura hose from
Trialsin USA and I was planning on using it on my Coker. But the brake
I got for my Coker from Ben already had a braided crossover so I didn't
end up using the Magura braided line. Right now it's sitting in my
parts box. I'll find a use for it soon enough.


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zod wrote:
> *Hmm, I just noticed that the Goodridge hose comes with two M8's and
> that would not be correct according to what you are saying John?? *

That should be OK for the main line. The brake lever has an M8 and one
of the slave cylinders has an M8. Then your crossover would need to
have two M6's.

You'll need to double check that the lever does indeed take an M8. I
looked at mine and it does look like it's an M8, but I'm not taking it
apart to verify.


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forget_your_life wrote:
> *the Goodridge housing has a nice plasticy coating on the outside.i
> think this is nicer that the bare medal Magura line.if i ever have to
> buy new braided line,i think i would go with the Goodridge. *

My aftermarket brake hose has a clear plastic coating. It's nice in
that it keeps the brake hose from scratching up the paint on the frame.
It's not so nice in that it shows visible creases when it gets bent too
much. It doesn't kink, but it does show a crease.

The genuine Magura braided hose is more flexible and won't show any kink
marks.

I posted a picture of my brake in my Miscellaneous Stuff gallery.
'Aftermarket Magura Brake Hose picture' (http://tinyurl.com/ywr94)
The photo also shows the fittings that were used. The fittings on the
crossover line are rather large.


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