Originally Posted by
alfeng .
How is providing a serious reply to your snarky remark ("
[COLOR= #808080]Maybe you could tell TZ in his "ebay foilbles..." thread that his expensive wrist watches with **** poor time keeping might be more accurate with the addition of a Super Record brifter.[/COLOR]") a diatribe?
- Regardless, it is apparently worth repeating, one of the beauties of Campagnolo's shifters is that the least expensive ([COLOR= #808080]even the Xenon + Xenon-based 2007-2009 QS shifters[/COLOR]) are as functionally effiicient as the most expensive Campagnolo shifter -- with a Campagnolo shiftter, if you want to move the chain to a larger cog or chainring the amount of load on the chain is irrelevant.
- While some may say THAT is true of Shimano shifters, I don't think it is the case, and apparently neither do MANY Shimano users otherwise there wouldn't be a reason to buy anything nicer than Tiagra components unless the rider is being sponsored.
It is a safe bet to say that most off-the-peg bikes are Shimano or SRAM equipped, but ...
FYI.
CyclinYooper had previously mentioned that he had a bought a then-new bike ([COLOR= #808080]a year-or-so ago[/COLOR]) which had an 8-speed ([COLOR= #808080]hence,
¿SORA?[/COLOR]) drivetrain ...
I did NOT know that he had bought a new bike in November, however.
Am I that remiss for not keeping track of what everyone rides?!?
Regardless, based on MY experience with the oft mentioned 6500 Ultegra drivetrain that I briefly used + immediate to the area mountain roads, my thinking was that
CyclinYooper's rides in the East Mountains had to have been heroic endeavors with his Sora-equipped bike ...
- If YOU ([COLOR= #808080]swampy1970, or anyone else[/COLOR]) think that SORA is so great, then why aren't you using it on your bikes? Do you really need more than 8 gears?
Without knowing that
CyclinYooper had bought a new bike, engaging in a 100+ mile ride of equal-or-greater terrain change would have been a Herculean undertaking without his swapping his Sora shifters to Campagnolo shifters ...
Really?!?
You have to tell me what I have stated which doesn't mesh with your current
World View that you apparently consider to be a "lie" ...
I hope what you might consider to be a "lie" isn't based on something Lennard Zinn may have written in the past ...
BTW. One of Sheldon Brown's inexplicable statements involved his inability to use an 8-speed Campagnolo wheel with a Shimano drivetrain, and vice-versa, BECAUSE the only way it wouldn't work is if he tried to hot-swap the wheels without adjusting the stops & tweaking the indexing.
The SAME-or-SIMILAR had to be true for whatever "test" Zinn (?) performed when mating Campagnolo shifters with Shimano derailleurs/etc.
Very lazy on the part of both individuals, IMO.
Of course, Zinn, however, couldn't deny that Campagnolo shifters work with SRAM since Campagnolo TT shifters had been used a season earlier by a (domestic) team which otherwise used SRAM components prior to his
revealing that the Campagnolo-SRAM mating worked well.
Zinn, as a retailer, musn't ruffle the feathers of any of his vendors ... after all, if someone wants Shimano because it is what Lance used, or SRAM because it is what Contador/Leipheimer/
whomever used, well Zinn certainly wants to be able to provide it for his buyer at the cost retailer's pay rather than what retailer's charge else he lose THAT portion of the sale & consequently some of the potential overall profit.
If, by chance, due to Zinn's remarks or those of others, you consequently don't think the shifting with the unauthorized mating can be "flawless" then it is easily confirmed-or-refuted with a simple test rather than protesting as a mindless parrot who doesn't know what he is saying:
- Campagnolo shifters are comparatively cheap on eBay & can be easily resold ...
- all that may be lost is the postage + the modest amount of time to "install" the shifters ...
[*] BUT, you might find that you didn't have to spend an extra $2000 for your new bike to have 7900 components vs. 105-or-Ultegra components + Campagnolo shifters + a better frame/wheels AND/OR fatter wallet.
In MY world, it is
still less expensive to spend $200-or-less to upgrade a bike with a set of Campagnolo shifters than to spend $1200-to-$2000 for a new Ultegra-or-DA group to achieve better shifting ...
OR, are you of a political persuasion whose math skills can't make that equation work?
BTW. I think that an all-Campagnolo drivetrain isn't necessarily a wise way to spend money, too ... but,
regardless of the rider, at least a Campagnolo drivetrain will shift under
all circumstances.