Not bad as long as you're not in a hurry!
My 2016 R872 is threaded external cups (English) So far, so good. Quiet and stiff. The 2017 version of the R872 switched to PF design.
The shimaNO BB42 in my TREK Emonda is good IMO, but I'm a fan of threaded outboard cups. The BB86.5 PF cups in the Emonda have been smooth as silk and quiet. I'm not sold on PF in general yet.
The Wilier Gran Turismo GTS frameset I just built up is no where near the price of the R872, but it has threaded external cups (English).
Also is the Wilier really any better than the Ribble? Or just marketing?My 2016 R872 is threaded external cups (English) So far, so good. Quiet and stiff. The 2017 version of the R872 switched to PF design.
The shimaNO BB42 in my TREK Emonda is good IMO, but I'm a fan of threaded outboard cups. The BB86.5 PF cups in the Emonda have been smooth as silk and quiet. I'm not sold on PF in general yet.
The Wilier Gran Turismo GTS frameset I just built up is no where near the price of the R872, but it has threaded external cups (English).
What do you not like about the Emonda?
Also is the Wilier really any better than the Ribble? Or just marketing?
The tall H2 headtube.
It's stiff, which I like, but it's also pretty damned chattery. A little buzzy, but not to the point of causing discomfort.
It's a bit top heavy and kind of slow to respond to the throttle.
Climbs well enough, but it just doesn't feel like a climber's bike.
Overall, a good bike. I put a Stages power meter on it and use it for Winter training along with my track bike.[/QUOTE
You must have a low end Emonda because I found the Emonda slr 10 to be super responsive, light and not harsh. I really liked it.
Not bad as long as you're not in a hurry! Anything I order I'm not in hurry to get it or I would have gone to the LBS and bought it. Paying for next day air would negate any savings person got from ordering it online. About 95% of the stuff I order gets to me in less then 4 days, but of course I'm doing business with US based companies. I've gotten a few items in as little as two days and a few as much as 5 days, but those longer shipping times had to do with the warehouse not sending it out for a couple of days.
What's weird is I can get stuff sent from California in 1/2 the time it takes to get stuff from Florida which is closer to me by a 1,000 miles! I can mail or receive letters from California in 2 to 4 days tops, but it took 10 days to get a letter to S Carolina, and another 9 days to get it back which is 1,300 miles closer than Los Angeles is to us. Not sure what the deal is going on north and south with the mail, but it's always been like that for as long as I can remember since I moved to Fort Wayne 14 years ago, but I could get mail when I lived in California to Florida and back in about 4 to 5 days one way. It's this north and south thing that's screwy.
It's because people in California receive at least a basic edumacation and don't spend time learning "dualing banjos" and fiddling their inlaws... Because of this, Billy Bob at the mail sorting center has to repeatedly ask his managers "is this here package to California international or does it go in the terrorist bin?" and consequently your package gets delayed.
LoL @ CampyBob asking Froze "can you find better prices" and instead of getting a one word answer, he gets a 64,000 word rambling reply. Something's never change.
64,000 word reply? How insulting can a person be, I counted those words and it was only 59,971, did you actually count them? I didn't think so, geez some people need to get their facts straight.
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