Anyone take Creatine, is it legal

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  1. Fastguppy

    Fastguppy New Member

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    For a professional athlete to take this may be a bad choice. If something shows up as a steroid then you will be banned. In this case it probably wouldn't but there is a chance that it would because some of it might be contaminated.



    So you must ask your self. Are you competing in any kind of national race or are you a professional.



    If not you don't need to worry about if something is legal or not.
     
  2. mikesbytes

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    Its not a steriod.
     
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    From Wiki:
    There is scientific evidence that taking creatine supplements can marginally increase athletic performance in high-intensity anaerobic repetitive cycling sprints, but studies in swimmers and runners have been less than promising, possibly due to the weight gain. Ingesting creatine can increase the level of phosphocreatine in the muscles up to 20%. It must be noted creatine has no significant effect on aerobic exercise (Engelhardt et al, 1998).
     
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    It cans till make you show up as positive. Eating a piece of candy can make you show up as positive. There are really cases of it with professional cyclist.



    It may not be a steroid but it can show up as one if it is contaminated.
     
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    It probably wont have a significant effect in general. Many people waste money on these things.

    In our university there was a test done to see how much of an advantage things gave you. Most of them did nothing as others did little good.
     
  6. mikesbytes

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    Some of the articles talked about there being benifits for older people.
     
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    I can't think of a citation now, but I have read materials suggesting that companies which market legal weight lifting supplements often secretly add 'roids. The article implied that experienced lifters could tell or that there was a grapevine, and that the names of these products were thinly disguised, coded references to the fact that they contain steroids.
     
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    Well I know for sure a product that would make people go a lot faster would probably be banned. They banned doping because of this effect so why wouldn't they ban another substance that would make you go fast?



    So we know pretty sure that we wont be seeing much of a increase. However it depends on how much money you want to spend.



    I think it is safe to say you wont have to deal with much (if any) drug testing so you don't really need to worry about that. SO now what we have left to deal with is how much do you want this, How much money are you able to spend and what kind of a benefit will it give you. It definitely wont hurt you so if you had it you could try it but do you want to spend the money for it?



    There’s other things to spend your money on. If I was old I would go to the store buy my self chocolate milk, raisins and get some real yogurt and frozen fruits and bend the fruits and the yogurt together.



    As it is a proven statistic that chocolate milk is the best recovery drink for you.



    Also note that other drinks and foods aren’t much better then Gatorade or power bars. A drink or some food can only be so healthy. Gatorade is not much worse then some of the drinks out there.



    The reason why Pros drink stuff like that is because there looking for just a tiny benefit.
     
  9. mikesbytes

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    I wasn't thinking that it would improve my cycling performance, I was checking that if I took it that I wouldn't be breaking any cycling rules.

    Theres some useful links in this thread
     
  10. Rockslayer

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    Creatine occurs naturally in alot of meat.
    As for improving performance, I used to take it in my weight training days certainly help with strength and increase volume in muscles. I am not sure if it helps when it comes to endurance or riding.

    I know it helped give me more energy when consumed prior to training but then again a red bull could do the same thing.

    If you drink alot of coffee or drink it about the same time as taking the creatine it supposed to neutralise the effect of creatine.

    The effects also plateau so its not like steriods where more could be better.

    I am sure it still has its uses, I think it could be helpful for older people as i think the body's ability to create it declines also the body's energy levels. I could be wrong havent really payed attention to it much in the last few years. There's always some new fancy research that says something entirely different.

    Hmm I remember it used to retail for like $200 per KG :eek: it was the in thing in the mid 90's
     
  11. mikesbytes

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    Just because you digest something thats already in your body, doesn't mean that the body uses it for that purpose. I must admit that I'm not 100% sure that digesting creatine is going to increase the levels in my body.

    Its popular amongst body builders.

    Can I cut down of coffee. Thats a tuff one.
     
  12. Fastguppy

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    Well USADA states "Take it at your own risk"

    How many drugtest do you think you will be doing? Any national championships? If so How many?
     
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    Its not a case of whether I'll be caught or not, I want to stick to the rules. If I can avoid accidently breaking a rule then I should.

    I'll check with my power lifting mates, Aussie power lifting is very strict and even vet F graders like me need to declare their training session so they can turn up and do a ramdom drug test.

    In 07 I'll be racing in club C grade and vet B grade, so you won't be seeing me on cycling news. But you might see me being lapped :eek:
     
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    I bought some on the weekend, I've had two drinks now and won't be having any more. My body's reaction has been very clear, not compatable. Since I can't drink chocolate milk either, I was looking for a recovery drink and was recomended musashi recovery stack, anyone got any better Ideas?
     
  16. mikesbytes

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    Creatine isn't a recovery product.

    It depends on what type of body you have, what type of activity you are doing and what improvement (if any) you want to make to your body.

    This is the sort of topic where we all disagree. I'm a cross trainer and I'm primary interested in muscle recovery and not so glicryin [can never spell that word] recovery. So for me, I focus on protein, spread over the day, for others carbs is the answer.
     
  17. skootaroo

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    Creatine is the labled active ingredient in this one and others.
    I've been commuting the same route for over four months and my legs haven't adjusted to the new load. So I thought a nutritional assist might be the whey to go.....walk into health shop.....empty loads of money onto counter.....walk out with a small bucket of powder!
    I'd like to do my commuting and then enjoy my weekend mountainbike rides, not feel like I need to rest my legs all weekend just to do the commute.
    I'm interested in muscle recovery too I just need something that does not upset my insides.
     
  18. mikesbytes

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    I should correct the creatine recovery statment. The product is usually laced with sugar and its the sugar that aids in the recovery.
     
  19. KappaX

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    A few months ago I asked a guy that works at GNC. He is a sport nutrition major and personal trainer. I asked him if taking creatine for cycling was useful. He told me that it has adverse effects if used for endurance sports.He sold me this stuff called Endurox Excel. They are tablets and I have found that they work great for me.
     
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