approaching horses

[sean]

How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them
from behind?

I usually whistle a couple of notes with a doppler-shift feel.......

I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
do that?
Sean.

 

[dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers]

>How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them
>from behind?

A not too loud and distinctly friendly-toned "cyclist coming up behind" will do
the trick. Also talk to the horse & rider as you carefully cycle by.

Cheers, helen s


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[pk]

sean wrote:
> How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them
> from behind?
>
> I usually whistle a couple of notes with a doppler-shift feel.......
>
> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
> do that?
> Sean.

the horse would be aware and the rider aware of the horse's unease.

i do a signle ping on my bell when a long way back to let the rider know i
am alert to them

pk

 

[Tony W]

"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]
> >How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them
> >from behind?
>
> A not too loud and distinctly friendly-toned "cyclist coming up behind"
will do
> the trick. Also talk to the horse & rider as you carefully cycle by.

Many years ago I was told (by a very experienced horsewoman who was on the
verge of the British Olympic team) that, as fair distance back, I should
pull out so the horse could see me (horses can look backwards) and make a
'gentle' noise. Ringing a bell was OK but a horn was not.

The trick, apparently, is to make the horse aware of your presence while
still far enough away that you are not an immediate attack threat. The
horse can then keep an eye on you but won't (probably, they are terminally
stupid animals) bolt.

Once closer a friendly hello or a ring of the bell to alert the rider will
then cause the horse less panic.

However, another horse riding friend nearly hit me when I did this -- she
thought ringing a bell would cause the stupid animal to bolt.

I also find that giving them a wide berth and coasting (not pedalling) past
them helps.

T

 

[bob watkinson]

"sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them
> from behind?
>
> I usually whistle a couple of notes with a doppler-shift feel.......
>
> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
> do that?
> Sean.

might be an idea to post this to a horsey type group to get a wider
consensus, then report the result back here.

 

[elyob]

"pk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> sean wrote:
>> How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them
>> from behind?
>>
>> I usually whistle a couple of notes with a doppler-shift feel.......
>>
>> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
>> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
>> do that?
>> Sean.
>
> the horse would be aware and the rider aware of the horse's unease.
>
> i do a signle ping on my bell when a long way back to let the rider know i
> am alert to them

It's a shame the Sunday strolling peds can't hear a bell. I've done a
trackstand right behind people and still pinging my bell. They really are
oblivious sometimes.

 

[Tony W]

"elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> It's a shame the Sunday strolling peds can't hear a bell. I've done a
> trackstand right behind people and still pinging my bell. They really are
> oblivious sometimes.

Some can't see you when you are right in front of them.

I had to stop and literally shout at this dopey woman two yards in front of
me yesterday who was walking along in a group chattering away with brain
switched off.

Grrr. Even more terminally stupid than a horse.

T

 

[Tony B]

> Some can't see you when you are right in front of them.

my ride today took me through the very centre of Stockport, through a
ped zone that has a cyclepath through the middle. Christ, that was hard
work - like the old video game "Defender". It was such fun I did it on
the way back too ;-)

bfn,

Tony B

 

[Zog The Undeniable]

Tony B wrote:

> my ride today took me through the very centre of Stockport, through a
> ped zone that has a cyclepath through the middle. Christ, that was hard
> work - like the old video game "Defender". It was such fun I did it on
> the way back too ;-)

Bet you missed the "smart bomb" button to clear the whole field of peds ;-)

 

[Danny Colyer]

elyob wrote:
> It's a shame the Sunday strolling peds can't hear a bell. I've done a
> trackstand right behind people and still pinging my bell. They really are
> oblivious sometimes.

I remember many years ago coming up behind a group of peds on a towpath
and ringing my bell a number of times. Eventually I slowly made my way
past on the edge of the path, to hear the sound of a voice behind me
asking: "Why didn't he ring his bell?"

Then there was the chap last year who, having had a clear view of me for
some distance while walking towards me, jumped out of his skin when I
passed him and had a go at me for not ringing my bell. Personally I
tend to reserve the bell for when I'm coming up behind someone, I'd
consider it rather bad manners to ring the bell when someone couldn't
reasonably be expected not to have seen me.

I wouldn't use a bell when approaching a horse. I'll stick to using a
reassuring voice instead.

--
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[Mike Causer]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:41:47 -0800, sean wrote:

> How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching them from
> behind?

About 50m behind I call out "Cyclist behind you". A voice just might be
more reassuring to dobbin than ringing a bell.


> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching before
> they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people) do that?

You are Undead, and ICMFP.


Mike

 

[Danny Colyer]

sean wrote:
> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
> do that?

Bikes with derailleur gears aren't particularly quiet. It's quite
likely that they heard you coming, but didn't consciously register the
sound.

Of course, if you ride a fixie then that explanation won't work.

--
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[Mike Gayler]

"bob watkinson" <[email protected]> writed in news:cqufth$596
[email protected]:

>
> might be an idea to post this to a horsey type group to get a wider
> consensus, then report the result back here.
>
Nice idea, but when I've asked this amongst horsey people I've nearly
started a riot, as they disagree with each other, and then end up
disagreeing with the point they started making.
Much better - in my opinion - to ask the horses - you'll get more sense.

 

[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, elyob
('[email protected]') wrote:

> "pk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> sean wrote:
>>> How do horseriders like to be made away that you are approaching
>>> them from behind?
>>>
>>> I usually whistle a couple of notes with a doppler-shift feel.......
>>>
>>> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
>>> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we
>>> (people) do that?
>>> Sean.
>>
>> the horse would be aware and the rider aware of the horse's unease.
>>
>> i do a signle ping on my bell when a long way back to let the rider
>> know i am alert to them
>
> It's a shame the Sunday strolling peds can't hear a bell. I've done a
> trackstand right behind people and still pinging my bell. They really
> are oblivious sometimes.

Let fly with the full 120dB of an AirZound when about five metres behind
them. Or twenty-five metres for horses...































Note: just in case you wondered, this was not intended as serious
advice.

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[Mike Causer]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:02:00 +0000, Mike Gayler wrote:

> Nice idea, but when I've asked this amongst horsey people I've nearly
> started a riot, as they disagree with each other, and then end up
> disagreeing with the point they started making. Much better - in my
> opinion - to ask the horses - you'll get more sense.

Perhaps it goes the same way it does with cyclists versus motorists. The
more of <minority> there are around the better they are treated? In
Cambridge there are so many cyclists that the cagers do at least
acknowledge their existence. But a horse in Cambridge is going to have a
hard time because the cagers have never seen one before. OTOH, in
Newmarket just 20km away, the horse is king and every cager gives way, but
carving up the infrequent cyclist is normal.

In the interests of accuracy it has to be said that the horses in
Newmarket do have, ahhhh, substantial firepow^W influence backing their
wellbeing.

Now how do we tool up the CTC?


Mike

 

[Tony W]

"sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
> do that?

We don't. The horse can see behind itself (cos its got eyes in the side of
its head). he horse sees you, twitches and the rider becomes aware.

T

 

[MSeries]

Danny Colyer wrote:
> sean wrote:
>
>> I have asked people who I have passed if they 'felt' me approaching
>> before they heard me and often they said yes........how do we (people)
>> do that?
>
>
> Bikes with derailleur gears aren't particularly quiet. It's quite
> likely that they heard you coming, but didn't consciously register the
> sound.
>
> Of course, if you ride a fixie then that explanation won't work.
>

Stop pedalling a derailluer equiped bike and it is pretty quiet UNLESS
you have those noisy Campag hubs.

 

[MSeries]

Mike Gayler wrote:
> "bob watkinson" <[email protected]wanadoo.co.uk> writed in news:cqufth$596
> [email protected]:
>
>
>>might be an idea to post this to a horsey type group to get a wider
>>consensus, then report the result back here.
>>
>
> Nice idea, but when I've asked this amongst horsey people I've nearly
> started a riot, as they disagree with each other, and then end up
> disagreeing with the point they started making.
> Much better - in my opinion - to ask the horses - you'll get more sense.
>

what was that talking horse called on that TV show ?

 

[Tony W]

"MSeries" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> >
>
> Stop pedalling a derailluer equiped bike and it is pretty quiet UNLESS
> you have those noisy Campag hubs.

Or knobbly 'banshee' tyres

 

[GwG]

"MSeries" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Mike Gayler wrote:
>> "bob watkinson" <[email protected]> writed in
>> news:cqufth$596
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>
>>>might be an idea to post this to a horsey type group to get a wider
>>>consensus, then report the result back here.
>>
>> Nice idea, but when I've asked this amongst horsey people I've nearly
>> started a riot, as they disagree with each other, and then end up
>> disagreeing with the point they started making.
>> Much better - in my opinion - to ask the horses - you'll get more sense.
>
> what was that talking horse called on that TV show ?

The one with the long face? Mr Ed.