Are shorty-shorts gay?



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I frequently run wearing shorts with a slit on the side that shows off
my greater trochanter.
I sense people looking at me and sometimes I see them laughing. I am in
southern cal, and people are very conservative in their dress here. I
think they assume I am gay.
I got the same vibe when I wore a speedo to the beach. I am from
canada, and speedos are socially acceptable there.
Should straight men only wear long shorts? I don't like them because
they mess up my suntan.
 
>I frequently run wearing shorts with a slit on the side that shows off my greater trochanter. I sense people looking at me and sometimes I see them laughing. I am in
southern cal, and people are very conservative in their dress here. I
think they assume I am gay.>

But you are, so wussup wit dat?

>I got the same vibe when I wore a speedo to the beach. I am from canada,>

I thought everyone from canada was gay? Something to do with the beer?

>and speedos are socially acceptable there.>

Here they are gay.

>Should straight men only wear long shorts?>

Yes.

>I don't like them because they mess up my suntan.>

See, you are gay.
 
Lets take votes. Gay, or not gay.
I vote gay.

On 4 Aug 2005 13:52:54 -0700, "I'm for it!" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>I frequently run wearing shorts with a slit on the side that shows off my greater trochanter. I sense people looking at me and sometimes I see them laughing. I am in
>southern cal, and people are very conservative in their dress here. I
>think they assume I am gay.>
>
>But you are, so wussup wit dat?
>
>>I got the same vibe when I wore a speedo to the beach. I am from canada,>
>
>I thought everyone from canada was gay? Something to do with the beer?
>
>>and speedos are socially acceptable there.>
>
>Here they are gay.
>
>>Should straight men only wear long shorts?>
>
>Yes.
>
>>I don't like them because they mess up my suntan.>
>
>See, you are gay.


TBR
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
Straight men (I'm one) should strive to be cultured and liberated, not
stupid hicks. Men should stop pissing on fire hydrants to prove their
masculinity. I say this in theory, but, then again, I'm not a big fan
of the speedo. Why? I don't need to see winky--too revealing--but where
form is essential, such as in the pool or during any competition, it
would be very immature and unimpressive to snicker. Short running
shorts are not this revealing in the first place, however.
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Should straight men only wear long shorts?

Straight men who don't mind provoking stares or comments should feel
free to wear split shorts. Men of any orientation who risk more than a
stare or a comment by wearing split shorts in their communities should
move somewhere civilized.

Running the streets of Brooklyn, NY, in shoes, socks, and split shorts
(no shirt), I receive an average of one negative comment (e.g some
variation on "***" or "put some f'in clothes on") per hour, and one
positive comment (most recently, a ~30 y.o. woman outside a bar
sprinted to get near me and tried to grab my ass while commenting
favorably on my anatomy) every 10 hours.

Where are you in southern CA? I'm fairly ignorant of your corner of
the country, but am mildly surprised short shorts merit so much notice
there.

P.S. You may *think* you're a straight man, but have you met TBR? I
used to think of myself as straight... I'm just sayin', he's a damn
fine looking hunk of manhood.
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I frequently run wearing shorts with a slit on the side that shows off
> my greater trochanter.
> I sense people looking at me and sometimes I see them laughing. I am in
> southern cal, and people are very conservative in their dress here. I
> think they assume I am gay.
> I got the same vibe when I wore a speedo to the beach. I am from
> canada, and speedos are socially acceptable there.
> Should straight men only wear long shorts? I don't like them because
> they mess up my suntan.

The only thing more gay than short shorts is asking if short shorts are
gay...oh...and worrying about your sun tan...that's pretty gay too.
 
> I receive an average of one negative comment (e.g some
variation on "***" or "put some f'in clothes on") per hour,
----

funny cp. i wear 2" inseam shorts, some split, some v-notch. how
long you been running your route in your community? i've been running
seriously again for about 4-5 years. believe me...i've heard it all.
as the years have gone by, the "digs" have subsided to pretty much nil.
nothing but admiration, respect, and thumbs up, even from the
knuckle-head teenagers.

sure gay guys check me out in my shorts. who cares. sfw....."chicks
dig the shorts"...hahahahaha.....and that's the bottom line.
 
On 4 Aug 2005 14:29:27 -0700, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Straight men

But you're neither a man, nor straight. So why are you giving advice?

TBR
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:55:41 -0400, "TheVicar" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"The Bill Rodgers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Lets take votes. Gay, or not gay.
>> I vote gay.
>
>He's as queer as the chimp.
>

Nobodys THAT queer (except Tony Blair)

TBR
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
[email protected] wrote:

> Should straight men only wear long shorts? I don't like them because
> they mess up my suntan.

Worrying about what you look like, at all, is not typical of
heterosexual men. Most straight men wear whatever the
wife/girlfriend tells them to wear. And most straight men don't
worry about their tan. And, when straight men do think about how
they look, they seem to get it wrong. Are you sure you're not gay?

Functional running shorts should allow free movement of the legs and
hips, with no binding or chafing. Split shorts would seem to fit
that description. Winners are usually the ones who do whatever it
takes to perform well, and don't worry about what it looks like.
Losers are usually the ones who want to look good, and don't think
about performance.

(I have often wondered how the young people can function, at all,
with "shorts" that are down past their knees, and with using one
hand to hold up their loose, oversized pants. I put most of those
kids in the category of "losers".)

In any event, the styles do seem to be going away from oversized
shorts, and back toward more functional clothing. Maybe you can
help that trend along.


Steve
 
[email protected] wrote:
> i wear 2" inseam shorts, some split, some v-notch. how long you
> been running your route in your community? [...] as the years
> have gone by, the "digs" have subsided [...] nothing but admiration

LA, there's probably a few factors at work here:

[a] You're more physically imposing than I - from your photos,
"halfback" sounds about right. I look about like a 5'9" recreational
runner who likes to eat. Although nobody anywhere said anything when I
had a fu-manchu - look potentially crazy and people give you wide berth
everywhere.

While I have a couple common routes, I don't have *a* route - nor
for that matter a very precise schedule - and my long runs especially
can and have gone to every corner of Brooklyn (and quite a few corners
of Queens and Manhattan). So it's a fresh audience much of the time.

[c] Cultural differences: Brooklyn and Manhattan are each too diverse
to say "the difference between them is X" but surely my audience
differs from those in your stomping grounds. The differences between
nearby neighborhoods here alone is huge. You get different types and
amounts of comments in the various nearby projects vs. the
self-congratulatory yuppie ass-clowns of Park Slope vs. Williamsburg
Hasidim vs. Sheepshead Bay Russian teens vs. Sunset Park latins or
Chinese vs. some fairly desolate areas in East New York or Bushwick vs.
the block with the mosque and all the muslim stores down the street.
And here in Brooklyn we have a lot more cars from which many of the
comments issue.

Some negative comments are from guys who are themselves so insecure
they're drowning in "queer fear", some seem to be from folks with
conservative ideas of dress coming from their religion (usually
Christian, if they're saying something out loud... butt hey, I'm just
"turning the other cheek" in my shorty splits!), some from teens who
need to impress their posse, and maybe some folks just resent the
relatively fit guy or the secure enough to be out like that guy or
maybe even the white guy running through their neighborhood, for
whatever their reasons.
 
"Charlie Pendejo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> Some negative comments are from guys who are themselves so insecure
> they're drowning in "queer fear", some seem to be from folks with
> conservative ideas of dress coming from their religion (usually
> Christian, if they're saying something out loud... butt hey, I'm just
> "turning the other cheek" in my shorty splits!), some from teens who
> need to impress their posse, and maybe some folks just resent the
> relatively fit guy or the secure enough to be out like that guy or
> maybe even the white guy running through their neighborhood, for
> whatever their reasons.

dude, put on some "decent" shorts. you look like a kweeah.

>
 
Yet another example of why Canada can never be considered a world power.
 
This entire argument, gay vs not, is very passe,
attributable to a former generation,
now rather old and tired.
 
Only for people insecure in their identity.

The habit in my area to wear over-the-knee
basketball shorts. I saw a cross country
team training in hundred degree heat this
way and they sure looked uncomfortable.

Baby boomer types still prefer the 70s style
minimal athletic clothes. OK for for sports,
but kind of gross for leisure wear in shopping
malls and coffee houses etc. Old skin is not
attractive.
 
"Yet another example of why Canada
Can never be considered
A world power."
~ Miss High Con

"... well, she is a dog,
Afterall."
~ Folly
 
rick++ wrote:
> Only for people insecure in their identity.
>
> The habit in my area to wear over-the-knee
> basketball shorts. I saw a cross country
> team training in hundred degree heat this
> way and they sure looked uncomfortable.
>
> Baby boomer types still prefer the 70s style
> minimal athletic clothes. OK for for sports,
> but kind of gross for leisure wear in shopping
> malls and coffee houses etc. Old skin is not
> attractive.

It depends on which babe the "old skin" is on.
 
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