Excellent analysis, OBC.Originally Posted by oldbobcat
His two winning world championship rides sealed my esteem of him as a rider. '83 was a lesson from the master (at 22 years of age) in keeping your powder dry until you need it and then controlling the race from the front. Without teammates. Eddie B. bragged that it was a textbook application of his coaching lessons. And '89 was more tactical, against a stronger field, more spectacular, more improvised, but also brilliant. And without teammates.
Probably doesn't use worms, too.
LeMond left two very disappointed riders that day, Fignon and Kelly. I think Konyshev was satisfied, though.
Right!Originally Posted by mpre53
How many 25 km TTs over a point to point aggregate downhill course, with a tailwind, have been run over the last 25 years?
word.Originally Posted by mpre53
it would seem to me that if someone had the goods on him for doping, they would have dimed him out by now.
Good points. I need to read Fignon's book.Originally Posted by mpre53
You know, as vocal as LeMond has been about doping over the last 20 years, and seeing how he was never Mr. Popularity among his fellow riders at the time (read some of Fignon's comments in his autobiography), it would seem to me that if someone had the goods on him for doping, they would have dimed him out by now. Fignon hated him. Usually didn't even mention him by name, only as "the American". Fignon admitted his own doping, but he always said that he believed that LeMond rode clean. Cyrille Guimard *****ed like there was no tomorrow over his use of aero bars in that TT, and accused him and his team of cheating with UCI's complicity. Guimard concurs in the belief that he rode clean.
If he used EPO, what kept him from resorting to it when Indurain, who climbed like a mule prior to 1991, dropped him like a bad habit on the Tourmalet, and he faded from yellow to 7th over the remainder of the Tour? Otto give him the wrong dosage?
Originally Posted by mpre53
How many 25 km TTs over a point to point aggregate downhill course, with a tailwind, have been run over the last 25 years?
I'm glad that Fignon and LeMond became reconciled with each other again before it was too late to do so.Originally Posted by southparkboy4u
There was a strained relationship between LeMond and Fignon when Fignon became sick. They had been friends, but years of competition weakened their relationship. When Fignon got sick, LeMond visited him several times before he died.
Doesn't exist so much now days. The mighty dollar rules all.Originally Posted by southparkboy4u
Sportsmanship based on respect. What a beautiful thing........
I dunno.Originally Posted by ambal
Doesn't exist so much now days. The mighty dollar rules all.
There are also those who theorize that Fignon was hampered by his wheels in the quartering tailwind. I'm pretty sure that LeMond ran a conventional front wheel, in addition to the aero helmet and bars.
Funny. For all I've read about that famous punch, I never actually saw it until I dug up an old French TV clip a few days ago. It was a pretty good right cross, and the Badger stepped into it. Put all of his weight, such as it was, behind it. Then, today, there's a clip of two nimrods getting into a girlie fight at the Tour of Poland going viral on Facebook. Looks like a slap fight between two sixth grade girls. :big-smile:danfoz said:Wassa matter for you, turkeys are delicious! I agree with the part about being a sore winner though. Unfortunately despite being a huge Hinault fan (even as an American), I have to say it pained me to watch his disingenuous celebratory finish salutation with Lemond at the top of Alpe D'Huez that year. Anyone watching could tell it pained him greatly to relegate the throne to an American, despite promising otherwise the previous year, and in that moment Lemond proved to be the bigger man letting Hinault cross the line first. However Hinault is still first in my book, apparently being the only pro cyclist who actually knows how to throw a decent punch!
Cyclists shouldn't fight, we almost always fight like girls.Originally Posted by mpre53
Then, today, there's a clip of two nimrods getting into a girlie fight at the Tour of Poland going viral on Facebook. Looks like a slap fight between two sixth grade girls.
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