Armstrong's podium speech....

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  1. whiteboytrash

    whiteboytrash New Member

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    Thanked Ullrich and Basso but was that a swipe at those who say the Tour is dope fueled ? He called them the 'cynics'..... the tour is won on 'hard work' he said and 'hard work' only........
     
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  2. spockroyaltea

    spockroyaltea New Member

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    i missed his speech but i heard it was kinda dumb.
     
  3. mareblu

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    good I liked it! especially said for those who still believe they all dope :mad:

    Thanks you Lance, I will be missing you for ever....... :eek:
     
  4. whiteboytrash

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    Yeah it wasn't much.... not very quotable.... he even got angry with someone in the crowd when they shouted out 'what about Basso' when he was thanking Ullrich.... he said 'I'll get to Basso ok !'.......................... he even said that he won't do it in French because he's French is not so good....... which meants 98% of the people there had no idea what he was saying !

     
  5. Ullefan

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    Felt like he was kinda patronising Jan and Ivan like they were his children, I mean give them (Jan especially) more respect.
     
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    Come on. He hasnt given JU enough respect over the last few years?
     
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    Won't and Can't are two different words. I dont know the exact quote but I think it was more like "I will do it in English because my French is not so good."
     
  8. Ullefan

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    Did you see the speech? If you didn't you your opinion is baseless. Having said that I know some that would have regarded his reference to Jan and Ivan as patronising, and some that wouldn't. Just my opinion that there was a hint of patronising.
     
  9. Patrick1983

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    really bad speech
    didn't have much good to say about basso and seemed to struggle to say anything about him

    we all know that it is impossible to finish in the top 15-20 without doping
    so i am glad he is gone
     
  10. thebluetrain

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    Yes I saw the speech.
     
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    thebluetrain New Member

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    Ok here is part of the speech. Tell me where the patronising took place.

    "It was hard for me, hard for my team of course," said Armstrong for the final time. "Basso...and Jan has been a great rival. It's tough to race against him, he's too much of a friend. He's prehaps the future of the Tour de France. So, Ivan: next year, this is your step; or Jan: this might be your step next year, I don't know, but I'm outta here, so..."
     
  12. Ullefan

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    It came right about when he was talking about the fact that he would be gone next year, so you losers could win next year ''maybe you could win Ivan, maybe you could win Jan'' is what I interpreted but you've edited a lot out.
     
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    Here is another part to the speech from eurosport. I will eventually find the whole speech. I cant wait to find the exact quote about the English/French part. Also it will be on the replay tonight.

    To those who don't believe in cycling, I feel sorry for you. I'm sorry you can't believe in miracles."
    "Vive le Tour. Forever."
     
  14. thebluetrain

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    I havent edited a damn thing. I copied and pasted that quote from cyclingnews.com. Go see for you self. That is the only part of the speech that is quoted.
     
  15. alienator

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    Really? You have some source of FACTS that no one else has? No? I didn't think so.....just another conspiracy twat regurgitating what other rumor mongers of spit up. I know it takes a lot of energy to actually think on your own, but try it sometime before you start spraying crap.

    Impossible my *ss. What exactly do you know about what is possible and what isn't?
     
  16. wilmar13

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    This makes no sense. Are you saying that you had to dope to compete with LA so now that he is gone doping will leave cycling or are you saying that he was the first to dope and now that he is gone everyone else will stop doping?

    Or are you just making two totally unrelated statements in the same sentence and using the word "so" in an attempt to join them? I can not understand your logic here at all.
     
  17. Patrick1983

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    keep your head in the sand alienator
    if it makes you happy

    sadly most people realise what is ahppening in the sport
     
  18. bing181

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    A propos of which ..

    - just because you don't understand French, that's no basis for assuming that a large percentage of French people don't understand English.
    - the TDF, and especially the final in Paris, is an international event. I watched the tour on French TV (more interviews ...), where the French commentators were at pains to point out how international the Tour was and the huge number of foreigners who were in Paris to watch it. By speaking in English, Lance may well have reached many more people than if he'd spoken in French.

    As for the podium speech .. I thought it was great, really great, and gutsy.

    Normal transmission will resume in a moment.

    B
     
  19. Patrick1983

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    where in my point did i say that?

    i am saying that it is impossible to finish in the top 20-15 without dope
     
  20. Dead Star

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    is it just me who finds irony in the fact that Christophe Moreau wears a livestrong band?

    and yeah. look at how much Mayo sucks every since they suspended their team doctor last year, who David Millar referred to as giving him advice on doping.
     
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